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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 7701149" data-attributes="member: 2067">I don't know how useful my feedback was, but given that this included a lot of &quot;standard ranger options,&quot; this gave me a lot of opportunity to comment on how dull and blah so many of the standard ranger options are.On the beastmaster, I said that it was a step in the right direction, but (a) most of it's abilities were dedicated to making the best suck less rather than making the beastmaster/beast awesome, and (b) the list still feels like it leaves out a lot of archetypes. I talked about maybe using a Conclave for each beast (or at least, like, category of beast, such as &quot;cat/panther/saber-tooth-tiger&quot; or &quot;dog/wolf/dire wolf&quot;), rather than trying to cram them all into one conclave, and maybe using unique stats for the beast that you can call so that I don't have to make that tough DM call of going &quot;Your horse-archer sounds like a cool character, but you can't have a horse as a beast companion, so....why?&quot;On the Hunter, I was like, &quot;This is yawn town, wake me when we get to Interestingvania.&quot; The Hunter is so crammed full of fiatan skillz it doesn't have room for much of an identity beyond them. On the Deep Stalker, there were a few abilities where my reaction was also, &quot;yawn,&quot; but it fared better. It's probably currently my favorite conclave.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 7701149, member: 2067"] I don't know how useful my feedback was, but given that this included a lot of "standard ranger options," this gave me a lot of opportunity to comment on how dull and blah so many of the standard ranger options are. On the beastmaster, I said that it was a step in the right direction, but (a) most of it's abilities were dedicated to making the best suck less rather than making the beastmaster/beast awesome, and (b) the list still feels like it leaves out a lot of archetypes. I talked about maybe using a Conclave [B]for each beast[/B] (or at least, like, category of beast, such as "cat/panther/saber-tooth-tiger" or "dog/wolf/dire wolf"), rather than trying to cram them all into one conclave, and maybe using unique stats for the beast that you can call so that I don't have to make that tough DM call of going "Your horse-archer sounds like a cool character, but you can't have a horse as a beast companion, so....why?" On the Hunter, I was like, "This is yawn town, wake me when we get to Interestingvania." The Hunter is so crammed full of fiatan skillz it doesn't have room for much of an identity beyond them. On the Deep Stalker, there were a few abilities where my reaction was also, "yawn," but it fared better. It's probably currently my favorite conclave. [/QUOTE]

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