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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Evilhalfling" data-source="post: 4009335" data-attributes="member: 16991">My players are game enough to try stuff without identifying it, partially due to the only time it hurt them was when they discovered the ring of featherfall only had 4 charges (when a PC flung himself out of the 5th tree - for fun)  Identification revealed that it was the "ring of four winds" and actually had 3 other 1st & 2nd level powers. Numerous cloaks, gloves and weapons have been identified by practice rather than magic, which I think is great.  Detect magic can seperate weapons/armor into light (+1/2) and moderate (+3/4) Beyond that I just tell them the plus after a session of use. For something like the ring of four winds, I prefer that magic/ a bard be employed.The ring in the blog wasn't a trap - Its the sort of thing that is used to remove an absent player from the game.  Which was then turned into a sub-plot.  Doesn't anyone else try and remove absent PC's?  Especially if the ring was orginally an important element that could not be explored without the player there? (or possibly because the DM had not worked out the details)</blockquote>