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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 3951551" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>New Races? That's done all the time - the FR books contained a few new Elf types, the Eberron books three new races (Shifter, Warforged, Changling). </p><p></p><p>Alignment and Planes are mostly fluff and don't really affect the balance of the game. (Usually, you balance alignment based abilities only against the alignments they affect, so they are not much different then abilities that are alignment-indifferent)</p><p></p><p>BAB and Saves is the first larger bit, because their goal was to create a different "curve" on advancement of these. But it's not like changing from THAC0 to BAB or from percentile to d20 + modifier vs DC.</p><p></p><p>Spells and Magic: </p><p>Stretching spell levels to ~30 levels isn't such a strong thing. Going from Vancian to per-encounter based spells is again a larger step - but it was already done in 3.5, with classes like the Warlock or the Binder, The Book of Nine Swords and in d20 with Starwars Saga edition - but it was more a "tack-on" and it changed the core assumptions of 3.5 enough to throw some people off - it worked against the common expectations. </p><p></p><p>D&D 4 is still a d20 system at its core. And that just can't be said for editions before 3rd. The core concept of the d20 system have been used for many games, and it is well tested and understood. D&D 3 didn't have this luxury - the d20 system was developed with it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 3951551, member: 710"] New Races? That's done all the time - the FR books contained a few new Elf types, the Eberron books three new races (Shifter, Warforged, Changling). Alignment and Planes are mostly fluff and don't really affect the balance of the game. (Usually, you balance alignment based abilities only against the alignments they affect, so they are not much different then abilities that are alignment-indifferent) BAB and Saves is the first larger bit, because their goal was to create a different "curve" on advancement of these. But it's not like changing from THAC0 to BAB or from percentile to d20 + modifier vs DC. Spells and Magic: Stretching spell levels to ~30 levels isn't such a strong thing. Going from Vancian to per-encounter based spells is again a larger step - but it was already done in 3.5, with classes like the Warlock or the Binder, The Book of Nine Swords and in d20 with Starwars Saga edition - but it was more a "tack-on" and it changed the core assumptions of 3.5 enough to throw some people off - it worked against the common expectations. D&D 4 is still a d20 system at its core. And that just can't be said for editions before 3rd. The core concept of the d20 system have been used for many games, and it is well tested and understood. D&D 3 didn't have this luxury - the d20 system was developed with it. [/QUOTE]
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