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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahrimon" data-source="post: 7656054" data-attributes="member: 12630">I don't blame the forgotten realms.  It's the players on both sides of the table that have ruined the setting for me.  Both DM and player who worship at the feet of cannon but you hear about the players messing with a DMs game more than a DM ram-roding a world towards their players because, well, a DM creates the world.  Just last week on these forums I read about a DM remembering a game where the DM was having some undead invasion heading towards some kingdom and players basically said "Meh, the Symbul(?) will take care of it it's her kingdom and she's a high level XYZ who can do ABC."  The DM knew a little about the kingdom, but didn't have those details.  His entire game was derailed because the players started metagaming the session.To be fair I take this stance in general for life.  Rabid fans of anything will ruin something for me.  If I'm going to enjoy something, let me enjoy it and don't shove it in my face.  So, I loved the 4e Realms. It was a world still rich in history but all of those annoying details had been rendered obsolete and I could once again DM a game without having to worry about an overly enthusiastic fan trying to tell me I'm doing something wrong.</blockquote>