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<blockquote data-quote="renau1g" data-source="post: 5186935" data-attributes="member: 54810"><p>I played it part way through with a group of 6, and ran roughshod over the first encounter in the module. The DM then began combining and bumping up encounters to compensate. Same as you we didn't cheeze it up (no fey chargers or crap like that), but my warden had a similar experience (even without the multiple second winds/encounter)</p><p></p><p>I find all WoTC modules/adventures to be cakewalks, especially LFR ones (which there I understand as they're trying to appeal to a casual or new gamer and don't want to hand their head to the new person). Also, with all the options out now the power level vs. PHB only has sky-rocketed and you can build some absolutely amazing PC's. I'm sure when it was play-tested it might have provided a decent challenge, which is the problem with offering more powerful options with every release.</p><p></p><p>In your case fire, I do believe the DM did a poor job of running the adventure. There's no way two PC's should've skated through the module as our DM had ramped it up and against our 6 had pushed us to the edge (and even a bit over it) by the 4th encounter.</p><p></p><p>Here's my PC at the start</p><p></p><p>[sblock=ooc]</p><p>====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ======</p><p>Kalas Graybeard , level 21</p><p>Revenant, Warden, Son of Mercy, Chosen of the Raven Queen</p><p>Build: Wild Warden</p><p>Guardian Might: Wildblood</p><p>Divine Spark: Divine Spark Strength</p><p>Divine Spark: Divine Spark Wisdom</p><p>Background: Geography - Forest (+2 to Perception)</p><p></p><p>FINAL ABILITY SCORES</p><p>Str 24, Con 15, Dex 17, Int 10, Wis 24, Cha 12.</p><p></p><p>STARTING ABILITY SCORES</p><p>Str 16, Con 13, Dex 15, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 10.</p><p></p><p></p><p>AC: 37 Fort: 35 Reflex: 31 Will: 35</p><p>HP: 188 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 47</p><p></p><p>TRAINED SKILLS</p><p>Nature +22, Endurance +19, Athletics +19, Perception +24</p><p></p><p>UNTRAINED SKILLS</p><p>Acrobatics +10, Arcana +10, Bluff +11, Diplomacy +11, Dungeoneering +17, Heal +17, History +10, Insight +17, Intimidate +13, Religion +10, Stealth +10, Streetwise +11, Thievery +10</p><p></p><p>FEATS</p><p>Level 1: Sudden Roots</p><p>Level 2: Mounted Combat</p><p>Level 4: Stubborn Survivor</p><p>Level 6: Toughness</p><p>Level 8: Human Perseverance</p><p>Level 10: Death's Blessing</p><p>Level 11: Wildblood Speed</p><p>Level 12: Action Recovery</p><p>Level 14: Reaper's Resistance</p><p>Level 16: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade)</p><p>Level 18: Psychic Lock</p><p>Level 20: Paragon Defenses (retrained to Robust Defenses at Level 21)</p><p>Level 21: Heavy Blade Mastery</p><p>Feat User Choice: Weapon Expertise (Heavy Blade)</p><p></p><p>POWERS</p><p>Warden at-will 1: Thorn Strike</p><p>Warden at-will 1: Weight of Earth</p><p>Warden encounter 1: Wildblood Frenzy</p><p>Warden daily 1: Form of Winter's Herald</p><p>Warden utility 2: Nature's Abundance</p><p>Warden encounter 3: Predatory Guardian</p><p>Warden daily 5: Hail of Thorns</p><p>Warden utility 6: Bear's Endurance</p><p>Warden encounter 7: Stalker's Positioning</p><p>Warden daily 9: Form of the Oak Sentinel</p><p>Warden utility 10: Shield of Stone</p><p>Warden encounter 13: Creeper's Grasp (replaces Wildblood Frenzy)</p><p>Warden daily 15: Form of the Rowan Sentinel (replaces Hail of Thorns)</p><p>Warden utility 16: Cleansing Earth</p><p>Warden encounter 17: Call Forth the Harvest (replaces Stalker's Positioning)</p><p>Warden daily 19: Blizzard Strike (replaces Form of Winter's Herald)</p><p></p><p>ITEMS</p><p>Githyanki Silver Longsword +4, Adventurer's Kit, Trollskin Darkhide Armor +4, Throwing Shield Heavy Shield (heroic tier), Boots of Eagerness (heroic tier), Strikebacks (heroic tier), Impenetrable Barding (heroic tier), Horseshoes of Speed (heroic tier), Mirrored Caparison (heroic tier), Bridle of Rapid Action (heroic tier), Life Shroud (heroic tier) (2), Coif of Focus (epic tier), Nightmare, Belt of Mountain Endurance (paragon tier), Premonition Ring (paragon tier), Ring of Invigoration (paragon tier), Potion of Regeneration (paragon tier), Iron Armbands of Power (paragon tier), Oil of Flesh Returned (heroic tier), Unguent of Darkvision (paragon tier), Caustic Whetstone (heroic tier), Brooch of Vitality +4, Saddle of the Nightmare (paragon tier)[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="renau1g, post: 5186935, member: 54810"] I played it part way through with a group of 6, and ran roughshod over the first encounter in the module. The DM then began combining and bumping up encounters to compensate. Same as you we didn't cheeze it up (no fey chargers or crap like that), but my warden had a similar experience (even without the multiple second winds/encounter) I find all WoTC modules/adventures to be cakewalks, especially LFR ones (which there I understand as they're trying to appeal to a casual or new gamer and don't want to hand their head to the new person). Also, with all the options out now the power level vs. PHB only has sky-rocketed and you can build some absolutely amazing PC's. I'm sure when it was play-tested it might have provided a decent challenge, which is the problem with offering more powerful options with every release. In your case fire, I do believe the DM did a poor job of running the adventure. There's no way two PC's should've skated through the module as our DM had ramped it up and against our 6 had pushed us to the edge (and even a bit over it) by the 4th encounter. Here's my PC at the start [sblock=ooc] ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&D Character Builder ====== Kalas Graybeard , level 21 Revenant, Warden, Son of Mercy, Chosen of the Raven Queen Build: Wild Warden Guardian Might: Wildblood Divine Spark: Divine Spark Strength Divine Spark: Divine Spark Wisdom Background: Geography - Forest (+2 to Perception) FINAL ABILITY SCORES Str 24, Con 15, Dex 17, Int 10, Wis 24, Cha 12. STARTING ABILITY SCORES Str 16, Con 13, Dex 15, Int 8, Wis 16, Cha 10. AC: 37 Fort: 35 Reflex: 31 Will: 35 HP: 188 Surges: 12 Surge Value: 47 TRAINED SKILLS Nature +22, Endurance +19, Athletics +19, Perception +24 UNTRAINED SKILLS Acrobatics +10, Arcana +10, Bluff +11, Diplomacy +11, Dungeoneering +17, Heal +17, History +10, Insight +17, Intimidate +13, Religion +10, Stealth +10, Streetwise +11, Thievery +10 FEATS Level 1: Sudden Roots Level 2: Mounted Combat Level 4: Stubborn Survivor Level 6: Toughness Level 8: Human Perseverance Level 10: Death's Blessing Level 11: Wildblood Speed Level 12: Action Recovery Level 14: Reaper's Resistance Level 16: Weapon Focus (Heavy Blade) Level 18: Psychic Lock Level 20: Paragon Defenses (retrained to Robust Defenses at Level 21) Level 21: Heavy Blade Mastery Feat User Choice: Weapon Expertise (Heavy Blade) POWERS Warden at-will 1: Thorn Strike Warden at-will 1: Weight of Earth Warden encounter 1: Wildblood Frenzy Warden daily 1: Form of Winter's Herald Warden utility 2: Nature's Abundance Warden encounter 3: Predatory Guardian Warden daily 5: Hail of Thorns Warden utility 6: Bear's Endurance Warden encounter 7: Stalker's Positioning Warden daily 9: Form of the Oak Sentinel Warden utility 10: Shield of Stone Warden encounter 13: Creeper's Grasp (replaces Wildblood Frenzy) Warden daily 15: Form of the Rowan Sentinel (replaces Hail of Thorns) Warden utility 16: Cleansing Earth Warden encounter 17: Call Forth the Harvest (replaces Stalker's Positioning) Warden daily 19: Blizzard Strike (replaces Form of Winter's Herald) ITEMS Githyanki Silver Longsword +4, Adventurer's Kit, Trollskin Darkhide Armor +4, Throwing Shield Heavy Shield (heroic tier), Boots of Eagerness (heroic tier), Strikebacks (heroic tier), Impenetrable Barding (heroic tier), Horseshoes of Speed (heroic tier), Mirrored Caparison (heroic tier), Bridle of Rapid Action (heroic tier), Life Shroud (heroic tier) (2), Coif of Focus (epic tier), Nightmare, Belt of Mountain Endurance (paragon tier), Premonition Ring (paragon tier), Ring of Invigoration (paragon tier), Potion of Regeneration (paragon tier), Iron Armbands of Power (paragon tier), Oil of Flesh Returned (heroic tier), Unguent of Darkvision (paragon tier), Caustic Whetstone (heroic tier), Brooch of Vitality +4, Saddle of the Nightmare (paragon tier)[/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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