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WotC's hesitation on tackling the feat tax.
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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5687347" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Yeah, that's an interesting idea. Ban expertise and go with these fixers. You could use things like the new chain shirt in MME to deal with defenses, and sprinkle in a few +1/2/3 to this or that NAD items too, then get rid of at least some of the defense feats. They could still exist, maybe with a tweak or two, their other benefits are interesting but not overwhelming.</p><p></p><p>@KD YES, there are some wonderful powers out there, but there were always wonderful powers out there. Some of the ones that were doing the heavy lifting back in the day have been nerfed somewhat, but the options are not as much more impressive now than they were 2 years ago. Some classes have gotten better, a few have kind of languished (sorcerers come to mind). Still, you were awesome at 16th level before and still are now. </p><p></p><p>AND remember, your 16th level PCs had BETTER be good. Here's an interesting tough encounter for you 4 Elder Blizzard Dragons, in the middle of a snowstorm. Yes, you will NEED that Cloak of Courage! That's only a level 19 encounter. It should be tough but of course you will handle it, and trust me there is going to be plenty of surges going off, lol.</p><p></p><p>Nobody said E-martial characters aren't EASIER TO PLAY, some of them (some aren't, like the knight, which at level 16 is going to have trouble being effective). Consider the above encounter where the enemy is going to be sliding PCs all over the place like no tomorrow. The knight isn't going to be doing a lot. You'd be FAR better off with a grappling fighter for instance. A slayer with a nice bow will be doing OK, but wow are those Chill Rebukes going to hurt the melee guys. </p><p></p><p>3 years of playing hasn't shown me that PCs have ramped up, it has just shown me that I can now whop on them right back. Even an at-level encounter I can guarantee I'm going to be burning your surges. Maybe you don't have a nasty enough DM, lol <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5687347, member: 82106"] Yeah, that's an interesting idea. Ban expertise and go with these fixers. You could use things like the new chain shirt in MME to deal with defenses, and sprinkle in a few +1/2/3 to this or that NAD items too, then get rid of at least some of the defense feats. They could still exist, maybe with a tweak or two, their other benefits are interesting but not overwhelming. @KD YES, there are some wonderful powers out there, but there were always wonderful powers out there. Some of the ones that were doing the heavy lifting back in the day have been nerfed somewhat, but the options are not as much more impressive now than they were 2 years ago. Some classes have gotten better, a few have kind of languished (sorcerers come to mind). Still, you were awesome at 16th level before and still are now. AND remember, your 16th level PCs had BETTER be good. Here's an interesting tough encounter for you 4 Elder Blizzard Dragons, in the middle of a snowstorm. Yes, you will NEED that Cloak of Courage! That's only a level 19 encounter. It should be tough but of course you will handle it, and trust me there is going to be plenty of surges going off, lol. Nobody said E-martial characters aren't EASIER TO PLAY, some of them (some aren't, like the knight, which at level 16 is going to have trouble being effective). Consider the above encounter where the enemy is going to be sliding PCs all over the place like no tomorrow. The knight isn't going to be doing a lot. You'd be FAR better off with a grappling fighter for instance. A slayer with a nice bow will be doing OK, but wow are those Chill Rebukes going to hurt the melee guys. 3 years of playing hasn't shown me that PCs have ramped up, it has just shown me that I can now whop on them right back. Even an at-level encounter I can guarantee I'm going to be burning your surges. Maybe you don't have a nasty enough DM, lol ;) [/QUOTE]
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