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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5687522" data-attributes="member: 2011">Like I said, we do not have Cloak of Courage.4 Elder Blizzard Dragons would definitely be a challenge. However, at least one dragon (and probably two) is blinded or dazed in round one or two, and -4 to -7 to hit PCs. A dragon would sometimes be dominated (and would run past one of the immobilized PCs granting combat advantage and being -5 to hit next round for running). It would take about 3 rounds to focus fire kill each dragon (12 rounds for the entire encounter) since our 3+ strikers tend to do 50 to 60 points of damage per round and have high chances to hit (and we have quite a few ways to give the strikers extra attacks).However, Rising Wind would definitely mess up the two melee Strikers big time (hence, the 3 rounds per dragon kill instead of a more typical 2), but some of the other PCs have blasts and bursts which both restrained and blinded do not stop. The second toughest thing would be the immobilization, but most of the PCs have ways around that (for example, half of the strikers are ranged and my leader has ways to slide PCs). But the PCs have multiple ways to immobilize foes at range, to take foes out of the combat completely for one or more rounds each, to debuff foes, to blind foes, to give temp hit points, to knock foes prone, to dominate foes, to negate riders, and to hand out free saves. The dragons are tough, but because of debuffs and immediate interrupts, they won't be hitting the PCs nearly as much as the PCs hit them, and temp hit points will make many of the attacks weaker than normal. Even my PC (who has a low chance to hit in the group) will hit the dragons on 8 or less. The sole exception to this is if the dragons can manage a lot of hits with Rising Wind. Hot DM dice could make this type of encounter real nasty.The problem that the dragons have is that they are huge. It will be real tough for all 4 dragons to focus fire on a PC like the PCs can focus fire on a given dragon (unless the dragons can manage some type of pinball slide a PC, but again, they have to hit first). So the dragon damage, when it actually hits, will probably be spread out over the group.Note: we would use a lot of healing surges, but my PC would probably not. He tends to use one healing surge per encounter. Sometimes two, but that's rare (he regenerates and can heal himself nearly to full with a single heal, so he uses the 5 minute rule for an encounter power to regen back to not bloodied and then heals back up).Oh, and the dragons better come in at ground level or at least one of them is falling for whatever height they come flying in at. It's a lot of fun watching a dragon bounce. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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