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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Haldrik" data-source="post: 8027868" data-attributes="member: 6694221">Yeah, Lawful really is completely independent from either Good or Evil.Weirdly, this is one of the things that D&D tradition kinda gets right. Law is fundamentally separate from Good.If the D&D tradition would stop confusing Lawful and Good, and make an effort to explain Lawful as a phenomenon that is independent of Good, the D&D alignment system would be even more useful. Perhaps without the ongoing confusion between Lawful and Good, it might even end the constant debates that derive from such confusion.There are advantages and disadvantages to being Lawful, and there are advantages and disadvantages to being Chaotic. Like Yang and Yin, each is ethically neutral. The Dao being the third path between the Yang and Yin, and including both Yang and Yin, is the transcendent path.</blockquote>