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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 8028034" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>That gets us back to the argument of 'what alignment is the Alien from Aliens'.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Aristotle, Locke (and many others) have argued that slavery is a natural part of the natural law. Some men are born to rule, and others born to serve.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0090591708317899?journalCode=ptxa" target="_blank">SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class research journals</a></p><p></p><p>[EXCERPT]This essay systematically reformulates an earlier argument about Locke and new world slavery, adding attention to Indians, natural law, and Locke's reception. Locke followed Grotian natural law in constructing a just-war theory of slavery. [/EXCERPT]</p><p></p><p>Ditto with the theological arguments (that also referred to natural law as their basis, as created by God) that were advanced by many Southern States in the USA justifying Slavery, and many other theological arguments advanced by fundamentalist adherents of other religions today that do the same thing based on 'natural law' as enshrined in their interpretation of their holy texts.</p><p></p><p>Do your research on it yourself mate. I cant go any further into it that that here, for risk of violating the sites rules on discussion of real world religion.</p><p></p><p>Suffice to say that I (personally) deny the existence of 'natural law'. And I'm a Lawyer IRL.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>'Natural law' and morality are <em>clearly </em>subjective. They're social constructs. I dont want to get to post-modern on you, but natural law is whatever a person says it is. I can use an appeal to 'natural law' to justify slavery, just like you can use it to denounce it. Good, Evil, Law and Chaos are whatever we agree they are.</p><p></p><p>In DnD, the terms have a meaning that can be implied (or expressly dictated) by the texts. 'Moral Good' in DnD has traditionally been the consensus modern view of 'good' in that it equates to 'altruism, mercy, compassion and charity' and 'Moral Evil' has been traditionally defined largely as 'causing harm to others' which is the consensus modern view as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 8028034, member: 6788736"] That gets us back to the argument of 'what alignment is the Alien from Aliens'. Aristotle, Locke (and many others) have argued that slavery is a natural part of the natural law. Some men are born to rule, and others born to serve. [URL='https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0090591708317899?journalCode=ptxa']SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class research journals[/URL] [EXCERPT]This essay systematically reformulates an earlier argument about Locke and new world slavery, adding attention to Indians, natural law, and Locke's reception. Locke followed Grotian natural law in constructing a just-war theory of slavery. [/EXCERPT] Ditto with the theological arguments (that also referred to natural law as their basis, as created by God) that were advanced by many Southern States in the USA justifying Slavery, and many other theological arguments advanced by fundamentalist adherents of other religions today that do the same thing based on 'natural law' as enshrined in their interpretation of their holy texts. Do your research on it yourself mate. I cant go any further into it that that here, for risk of violating the sites rules on discussion of real world religion. Suffice to say that I (personally) deny the existence of 'natural law'. And I'm a Lawyer IRL. 'Natural law' and morality are [I]clearly [/I]subjective. They're social constructs. I dont want to get to post-modern on you, but natural law is whatever a person says it is. I can use an appeal to 'natural law' to justify slavery, just like you can use it to denounce it. Good, Evil, Law and Chaos are whatever we agree they are. In DnD, the terms have a meaning that can be implied (or expressly dictated) by the texts. 'Moral Good' in DnD has traditionally been the consensus modern view of 'good' in that it equates to 'altruism, mercy, compassion and charity' and 'Moral Evil' has been traditionally defined largely as 'causing harm to others' which is the consensus modern view as well. [/QUOTE]
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