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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8032765" data-attributes="member: 18">You seem to confusing a lot of stuff here.Hyperbole is rubbish. It ruins discussions and confuses people. It masks true feelings and concrete problems under &quot;hilarious&quot; exaggeration. That's what I'm talking about.If people &quot;feel&quot; they're being &quot;called a racist&quot;, when they aren't, what are you supposed to say to them? Whether you're being called a racist or not is a matter of fact, not opinion. If you say &quot;Oh, Ruin, don't call me a racist!&quot; and I say &quot;I'm specifically not calling you a racist.&quot; and you say &quot;But I FEEL like you are!!!&quot; then it's &quot;Okay, cool, you can feel that way&quot;, but that's the end of the conversation, because there's nothing more to be said. The feeling have been acknowledged. There is no possible action to be taken. End of.This discussion is not based on &quot;some people&quot; (i.e. I guess this is how you're referring to ethnic minorities?) being &quot;hurt/offended&quot; anyway. That's giant canard. So you're either confused or being disingenuous. It's based on people quite correctly asserting that certain tropes and approaches are outdated and harmful. It's not &quot;offended&quot;, it's that the tropes themselves are harmful. WotC agrees and recognises this, and is keen to change a lot of that stuff, including stuff nobody asked to be changed (the stat thing is clearly a happy coincidence, not something people asked for).The alignment thing isn't because people are &quot;offended&quot;, it's because it was dumb and old-fashioned in a bad way, and it's past time for it to change. It should have changed in 3E, especially given an awful lot of people were already running it that way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8032765, member: 18"] You seem to confusing a lot of stuff here. Hyperbole is rubbish. It ruins discussions and confuses people. It masks true feelings and concrete problems under "hilarious" exaggeration. That's what I'm talking about. If people "feel" they're being "called a racist", when they aren't, what are you supposed to say to them? Whether you're being called a racist or not is a matter of fact, not opinion. If you say "Oh, Ruin, don't call me a racist!" and I say "I'm specifically not calling you a racist." and you say "But I FEEL like you are!!!" then it's "Okay, cool, you can feel that way", but that's the end of the conversation, because there's nothing more to be said. The feeling have been acknowledged. There is no possible action to be taken. End of. This discussion is not based on "some people" (i.e. I guess this is how you're referring to ethnic minorities?) being "hurt/offended" anyway. That's giant canard. So you're either confused or being disingenuous. It's based on people quite correctly asserting that certain tropes and approaches are outdated and harmful. It's not "offended", it's that the tropes themselves are harmful. WotC agrees and recognises this, and is keen to change a lot of that stuff, including stuff nobody asked to be changed (the stat thing is clearly a happy coincidence, not something people asked for). The alignment thing isn't because people are "offended", it's because it was dumb and old-fashioned in a bad way, and it's past time for it to change. It should have changed in 3E, especially given an awful lot of people were already running it that way. [/QUOTE]

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