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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 8033840" data-attributes="member: 22779">Actually, that's inaccurate [USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER].&nbsp; The Monster Manual (5e) disagrees with you on the creation bit.The Monster Manual states that Gruumsh had already created the orc race, but, when it came time to find a home for them, he found that all the other races had already claimed all the territory.&nbsp; So, Gruumsh proclaimed that his orcs would take what the other races had denied him.&nbsp; So, no, orcs were not created to wage eternal war.&nbsp; And, let's be honest here, the description of what happened may not be entirely reliable, as, well, this is the orc's telling of it.&nbsp; After all, it states that orcs worship Gruumsh, but, since there are other gods in the orc pantheon, some orcs must worship those other gods.&nbsp; Which means that the creation story presented does have some holes in it.It's entirely plausible that there are groups of orcs that avoided Gruumsh's conscription into eternal war.&nbsp; After all, it flat out states that orcs are roving pillagers, except, in rare circumstances, when they hold onto land for lengthy periods of time.&nbsp; The description right in the Monster Manual contains a number of contradictions.&nbsp; Could it possibly be that your interpretation of the Monster Manual might not also contain contradictions?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 8033840, member: 22779"] Actually, that's inaccurate [USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER]. The Monster Manual (5e) disagrees with you on the creation bit. The Monster Manual states that Gruumsh had already created the orc race, but, when it came time to find a home for them, he found that all the other races had already claimed all the territory. So, Gruumsh proclaimed that his orcs would take what the other races had denied him. So, no, orcs were not created to wage eternal war. And, let's be honest here, the description of what happened may not be entirely reliable, as, well, this is the orc's telling of it. After all, it states that orcs worship Gruumsh, but, since there are other gods in the orc pantheon, some orcs must worship those other gods. Which means that the creation story presented does have some holes in it. It's entirely plausible that there are groups of orcs that avoided Gruumsh's conscription into eternal war. After all, it flat out states that orcs are roving pillagers, except, in rare circumstances, when they hold onto land for lengthy periods of time. The description right in the Monster Manual contains a number of contradictions. Could it possibly be that your interpretation of the Monster Manual might not also contain contradictions? [/QUOTE]

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