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WotC's Jeremy Crawford Talks D&D Alignment Changes
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<blockquote data-quote="Azzy" data-source="post: 8034831" data-attributes="member: 6563"><p>There are a couple problems with this line of reasoning. Unlike how you wish to view orcs, nazis and stormtroopers aren't born evil—they have aligned themselves with and work for a political and military organization that is evil and espouses an evil ideology. They have chosen to be evil either through action (signing up with the evil organization) or through inaction ("just following orders"). More over, both nazis and stormtroopers are capable of renouncing their alegiance to their evil organization and ideology (with examples in history and fiction). So, yes, we don't feel bad for them when they are killed in fiction but it's because that work for an evil organization and work to advance that organization.</p><p></p><p>WotC changing the orc entry to have the alignment unspecified as a whole and instead used at the individual level doesn't change that you can have orcs as the bad guys. Just, now, instead of them being born evil they are now evil based on allegiance and ideology (with those that aren't a part of that particular organization or ideology aren't necessarily evil). Considering that there have been depictions of orcs that aren't evil in previous edition, the only change here is the acknowledgement of such and a presentation that reflects it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Azzy, post: 8034831, member: 6563"] There are a couple problems with this line of reasoning. Unlike how you wish to view orcs, nazis and stormtroopers aren't born evil—they have aligned themselves with and work for a political and military organization that is evil and espouses an evil ideology. They have chosen to be evil either through action (signing up with the evil organization) or through inaction ("just following orders"). More over, both nazis and stormtroopers are capable of renouncing their alegiance to their evil organization and ideology (with examples in history and fiction). So, yes, we don't feel bad for them when they are killed in fiction but it's because that work for an evil organization and work to advance that organization. WotC changing the orc entry to have the alignment unspecified as a whole and instead used at the individual level doesn't change that you can have orcs as the bad guys. Just, now, instead of them being born evil they are now evil based on allegiance and ideology (with those that aren't a part of that particular organization or ideology aren't necessarily evil). Considering that there have been depictions of orcs that aren't evil in previous edition, the only change here is the acknowledgement of such and a presentation that reflects it. [/QUOTE]
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