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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 8035193" data-attributes="member: 6801776">Y' might notice from my posts, but I'm a nerd who's big on worldbuilding and that good ol' wonderful world verisimilitude. This is the world's ability to go by its rules and make sense logically. And that's why I've considered the excuse of "The gods did it!" to be weak, becauseThe lore could change, but that would make it so the Dritz books make no sense (Nevermind any of the other many, many, MANY tales of drow breaking away from their civilisation out there), so it won't. But, this establishes a thing: Gods have how they want people to be, but cannot control them to that degree that they have to.There is nothing inconsistent about the Tarrasque. It works by its own rules which remain consistent. The thing is, we have a data point of One for the Tarrasque, whereas for Gods we have a data point of "A bloody ton"Novels and lore show that this does not occur even when it would benefit the deity. As such, there is substantial reason to think they don't. Lolth is the clear example of someone who would A: Use this every opportunity it is up, and B: Has a vested interest in using it.While she thrives on it, she has  opportunities she has to give up the sims3-mezo.sav method of control  and get down there to slap people's heads together. She can't just mind-control people into doing her will, has no way outside of propaganda at stopping people from joining up with other deities, and has never shown this ability when it would be useful to her. Sure, she loves her infighting, but she ain't a fan of people siding up with the other drow deities to the point they tend towards being dead in a few editions (though being around and alive in this one is a better idea)Gods in D&D are given established powersets. They can send visions. They can respond to prayers. They've never been shown the ability of "Control an entire race's position in terms of an alignment axis". This is contrary to pre-existing information, and is contrary to actions of orcs in the world.There has never been any establishment of this being the case. You're requiring both the race and the deity to be exceptions to literately every other thing out there, even considering player orcs. Its far more sensible, in universe, that.... This just isn't the case and orcs can be whatever they want but due to culture tend towards a certain alignment.Theses two contradict each other. Either he forces them to all be Chaotic Evil, or he doesn't. And 5E lore is pretty clear on the "He doesn't".The way its written in at least one book they're pretty clearly thumbing the nose at him. I'd have to get the source but its basically Gruumsh really wanting to get rid of itSo, no. "Gruumsh makes all orcs chaotic evil" is not a workable solution. It is not an established poweset, does not match with other examples of deities who'd want to do the same (Lolth), and doesn't match with how orcs are portrayed. It is a non-solution, never has been a reliable explanation for it, and doesn't make internal sense in how orcs are portrayed.I will die on the hill that "Everything is alignment X" is stupid.</blockquote>

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