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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 8035433" data-attributes="member: 6801776">Is it even against type at this point? FR had Grey Orcs and Many Arrows, and 'Good orcs' are specifically flat out the type for Eberron. I've had fun with playing against type in the past (My extremely tired elven professor who sidelines as a warlock and isn't arrogant about it, and my catboy barbarian who's a sensitive nervous soul who only opens up in battle or when obsessing over weapons among them) and.... Good orc isn't against type at this point. Orc mage? That's against type. But there's dozens of good orcs in fiction.Re-thinking this, I think the problem is D&D's interpretation of orcs hasn't kept pace with how they're seen in other sources. To put it simply, orcs have moved on in popular culture. But D&D ones haven't. And that's where there's going to be a disconnect and why there's so much saying on this.90% of famous tieflings out there in various sources tend towards the nicer end of the scale. Let's not forget, no one cares about Generic Tiefling NPC. They care about Annah from Planescape: Torment, or other such characters from various webgames. Let's not forget the effect these important fleshed-out characters have on the game, what with fellow Planescape character Dak'kon being why Githzerai have any of their unique lore and aren't just githyanki knock-offsOne of my favourite random stories in D&D was about a halfling barbarian who ends up in a party with a halfling bard. Over the course of it they fall in what amounts for love, even though the barbarian's probably more chill with the half orc warrior in the party due to the two being a fan of considerably large weapons and RIP AND TEAR. Plus, y'know, Dark Sun and all halflings actually coming from Dark Sun</blockquote>

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