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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8037713" data-attributes="member: 6801228">A few things to unpack here. Demon's care about the Blood War because they are in it, That's the point. If they weren't in the Blood War, they wouldn't care about it either. Yugoloths, well, they don't seem to care about much of anything beyond making gold, which again makes no sense, because what are they even using it for? And the association with Greed is a Devil schtick. I do find you said something very interesting though "I don't know enough about spirit naga lore to comment on them specifically". Which is part of my point, because guess what? They are kind of lawful. Spirit Nagas dwell in dismal ruins, plotting vengeance against those that have wronged them. They are brutal tyrants who rule with absolute authority over those in their domain, controlling them via magic. They are also (as are all nagas in 5e it seems) seeking to reclaim lost knowledge and relics that they see as rightfully theirs. So, they rule, control, study arcane knowledge and seek the return of things they feel belong to them because they were left by their creators. So, they aren't increasing chaos around them, they are imposing law, they may resent other people's laws, but so do Devils.And unpredicatable and disloyal could be used to describe a devil too. They are the epitome of the "letter of the law" style of backstabbing and treachery. Backstabbing and Treachery being about as "disloyal" as you can get. But, this is the point I was trying to get at. You took a creature you knew nothing about, looked at the alignment, and came to the wrong conclusion about what that creature would be like. So, if it is leading to the wrong conclusion (That is Banderhob, and Spirit Naga so far, possibly Yuan-Ti and Yugololth too) it is not a useful tool.Really? They run secret empires, cults and spies trying to return the rule under their reign, how is any of that apathetic? They have to be pretty active to have all those cults everywhere after all.Really? I think a Red Dragon would be likely to look for an investment before just eating you. They are very intelligent beings after all, and Adventurers can be useful.Sure, tandem can work, but we keep seeing that, well, the alignments and the lore seem to be in conflict almost as often as they are aligned, making it really treacherous to play them "accurately" without knowing the loreSo, how does that work in opposition to neutral evil creatures, like Hags, Succubi, Drow, Blights. In fact, Hags are a perfect example. They are untrustworthy they enjoy tormenting their prey and do so with glee, in fact taking something beautiful good and turning it ugly and evil is their greatest pleasure. They have no higher calling than their own desires, will abandon everything to live to fight another day and sacrifice anything to that end.Neutral Evil. But, that fits your description of Chaotic Evil</blockquote>

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