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<blockquote data-quote="TheSword" data-source="post: 8038488" data-attributes="member: 6879661"><p>There are some things to consider which might help you appreciate other people’s point of view.</p><p></p><p>Firstly you’re assuming a single line of text can sum up an entire philosophy and then you’re assuming lots of ‘next steps’ to justify what you perceive to be irreconcilable issues. In reality alignments are far more complicated than that. Debate on the varying alignments has continued for decades... I’m not surprised... these are philosophical and as such are not clean cut.</p><p></p><p>You have missed out two key quotes in your selective passages above...</p><p></p><p>“...which <strong>broadly</strong> describes its moral and personal attitudes.”</p><p></p><p>and...</p><p></p><p>“...few people are perfectly and consistently faithful to the precepts of their alignment.”</p><p></p><p>You’re assuming that the traits of an alignment are mutually exclusive. when in fact intelligent creatures are rarely that simple. Alignments suggest a general trend. It isn’t that creatures that have a default or trend to one alignment can’t EVER behave differently to that. Alignment is on a continuum, each division is not an all encompassing dictation of behaviour to the most extreme degree.</p><p></p><p>You are assuming that any common activity a creature does is a tradition and because it is a tradition it is therefore lawful. That is a faulty assumption. Elves may have multiple partners not because society tells them too, but because they like it and other Elves don’t care. Some things are traits, or trends, Elves could behave differently if they wanted to, they just don’t care too.</p><p></p><p>Elves, cloud giants, some gnomes and other chaotic creatures do have societies. The fact that they do, and proves that the Chaotic creatures are not “anti” society as you claim, but just have a different ‘attitude’ towards society... just as the quote says. They still have traditions and customs, a chaotic creature just wouldn’t feel beholden to them.</p><p></p><p>You say the alignment descriptions are ‘rules’ of the new edition. That is an unhelpful fixation. You are ignoring that alignment is a guide not a Straight jacket.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheSword, post: 8038488, member: 6879661"] There are some things to consider which might help you appreciate other people’s point of view. Firstly you’re assuming a single line of text can sum up an entire philosophy and then you’re assuming lots of ‘next steps’ to justify what you perceive to be irreconcilable issues. In reality alignments are far more complicated than that. Debate on the varying alignments has continued for decades... I’m not surprised... these are philosophical and as such are not clean cut. You have missed out two key quotes in your selective passages above... “...which [B]broadly[/B] describes its moral and personal attitudes.” and... “...few people are perfectly and consistently faithful to the precepts of their alignment.” You’re assuming that the traits of an alignment are mutually exclusive. when in fact intelligent creatures are rarely that simple. Alignments suggest a general trend. It isn’t that creatures that have a default or trend to one alignment can’t EVER behave differently to that. Alignment is on a continuum, each division is not an all encompassing dictation of behaviour to the most extreme degree. You are assuming that any common activity a creature does is a tradition and because it is a tradition it is therefore lawful. That is a faulty assumption. Elves may have multiple partners not because society tells them too, but because they like it and other Elves don’t care. Some things are traits, or trends, Elves could behave differently if they wanted to, they just don’t care too. Elves, cloud giants, some gnomes and other chaotic creatures do have societies. The fact that they do, and proves that the Chaotic creatures are not “anti” society as you claim, but just have a different ‘attitude’ towards society... just as the quote says. They still have traditions and customs, a chaotic creature just wouldn’t feel beholden to them. You say the alignment descriptions are ‘rules’ of the new edition. That is an unhelpful fixation. You are ignoring that alignment is a guide not a Straight jacket. [/QUOTE]
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