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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8040914" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I love how the people who defend alignment keep saying "stop looking at the problems and inconsistencies, instead try and understand why it actually works really well and you'll see that it works really well." </p><p></p><p>That nail biting over the "few lines" in the PHB? That is talking about the rules for alignment. Those few lines are it. A person picking up the book for the first time isn't looking at decades of expeirence running monsters, they have those few lines to go off of. They haven't read Gygax's letters, or Three Hearts and Three Lions, or Moorcock, or any of it. </p><p></p><p>They've got about half a page in the PHB. </p><p></p><p>Also, you still are ignoring the actual point about the Hags. You said "Lawful tells me Mind Flayers will work with other Mind Flayers if they don't have an Elder Brain controlling them." This implies quite heavily that if they were Neutral or Chaotic, this would not be the case. Beholders are Lawful, but they do not work with other Beholders. Hags are neutral or chaotic, but they do work with other hags. </p><p></p><p>So, how did Lawful tell you Mind Flayers work together? It couldn't be because Beholders will work with other intelligent beings. It couldn't be that Neutral creatures won't work together, because of Hags. So, what was it that caused alignment to fill in that gap for Mind Flayers?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But, as we have shown, <strong><u>repeatedly</u></strong> many of these alignments are not actually telling you anything about the creature.</p><p></p><p>Here, I am going to assume that most people on here have not memorized the Tome of Beasts from Kobold Press. It is 5e compatible, so let me just grab a monster.</p><p></p><p>Alseid -Chaotic Neutral</p><p></p><p>Tell me about them. What are they generally about?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8040914, member: 6801228"] I love how the people who defend alignment keep saying "stop looking at the problems and inconsistencies, instead try and understand why it actually works really well and you'll see that it works really well." That nail biting over the "few lines" in the PHB? That is talking about the rules for alignment. Those few lines are it. A person picking up the book for the first time isn't looking at decades of expeirence running monsters, they have those few lines to go off of. They haven't read Gygax's letters, or Three Hearts and Three Lions, or Moorcock, or any of it. They've got about half a page in the PHB. Also, you still are ignoring the actual point about the Hags. You said "Lawful tells me Mind Flayers will work with other Mind Flayers if they don't have an Elder Brain controlling them." This implies quite heavily that if they were Neutral or Chaotic, this would not be the case. Beholders are Lawful, but they do not work with other Beholders. Hags are neutral or chaotic, but they do work with other hags. So, how did Lawful tell you Mind Flayers work together? It couldn't be because Beholders will work with other intelligent beings. It couldn't be that Neutral creatures won't work together, because of Hags. So, what was it that caused alignment to fill in that gap for Mind Flayers? But, as we have shown, [B][U]repeatedly[/U][/B] many of these alignments are not actually telling you anything about the creature. Here, I am going to assume that most people on here have not memorized the Tome of Beasts from Kobold Press. It is 5e compatible, so let me just grab a monster. Alseid -Chaotic Neutral Tell me about them. What are they generally about? [/QUOTE]
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