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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8045566" data-attributes="member: 18">That'd be a lot easier if people could agree on what &quot;D&amp;D&quot; was. Worth noting too that the delta between 4E and 5E would likely have been a lot smaller if it hadn't hit at the same time as the massive rise in public consciousness (especially in &quot;the youth&quot;) about D&amp;D, whether via podcasts/Twitch/Critical Role, pop-culture mentions, or whatever.This one is just not true too. Very few people have been pleased to see that back. Even a lot of hardline &quot;4E sux&quot; types have said &quot;Ugh Great Wheel...&quot; or the like.M&amp;M would create a bunch of problems too - people don't want to have to build classes/races from the ground up, so that's really just substituting one problem for another. But I do think you could take a lot of things from other RPGs and most players (remember, we're in the 11% who are 40+, I mean, well, I am, I assume you are, not the 89% who are younger), many of whom started with 5E, would be happy enough.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8045566, member: 18"] That'd be a lot easier if people could agree on what "D&D" was. Worth noting too that the delta between 4E and 5E would likely have been a lot smaller if it hadn't hit at the same time as the massive rise in public consciousness (especially in "the youth") about D&D, whether via podcasts/Twitch/Critical Role, pop-culture mentions, or whatever. This one is just not true too. Very few people have been pleased to see that back. Even a lot of hardline "4E sux" types have said "Ugh Great Wheel..." or the like. M&M would create a bunch of problems too - people don't want to have to build classes/races from the ground up, so that's really just substituting one problem for another. But I do think you could take a lot of things from other RPGs and most players (remember, we're in the 11% who are 40+, I mean, well, I am, I assume you are, not the 89% who are younger), many of whom started with 5E, would be happy enough. [/QUOTE]

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