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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8047477" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Cutting the part about your setting, because it doesn't matter. DnD is supposedly set up with the idea of "Objective Law" (I won't say Divine, because it applies to Divine and Infernal) your "what if" is supposed to be the case. However, Law and Chaos don't work. The definitions in the books are contradictory, the examples from various sources like the variety of creatures, are contradictory and cover different alignments at the same time. The solution offered by the last set of posts was that that was fine, the DM could just define Lawful however they feel like for their own tables... which again makes it useless as a general rule for the game. It doesn't matter whether or not it is presented as objective or divine or absolute, the problem is that it is so contradictory that it provides no guidance.I will remind people, yet again, that this entire thread started with an announcement from WoTC about changing alignment. So, this isn't us calling for changes, this is WoTC saying they are going to change something, and us saying we are happy with that, because Alignment isn't helping us. And, since the people who like them seem to be going off of multiple decades of editions in their heads, sometimes ignoring the rules presented in the book for their own interpretations. Then removing alignment entirely.... wouldn't even affect them. While saving page count for those of us who skip it anyways.</blockquote>

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