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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8049483" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"></li> </ul><p>This is a great post, from a great series (been a few years), but it also highlights some problems. </p><p></p><p>Because I disgree with some of your end conclusions. </p><p></p><p>Suzaku, for example, you've put as Lawful Neutral, but you have to paranthesize that he has Good tendencies. Frankly, I'd just put him as Lawful Good, with some missteps do to desperation. He is in fact for most of the series one of the most honest and just people in the series. He is altered somewhat by the system, causing him to push harder into Law than good, but that is in response to the Black Knights, who are a massive terrorist organization (from their perspective) who are tearing the country apart. Yes he believes in systems, but he believes in those systems for the good of the people. </p><p></p><p>And Lelouch, while he does some terrible things, is also a Good person at heart. He sees these actions as necessary to reach a world where his sister can be safe, and where the atrocities he's seen cannot be repeated. The reason he avoids the "be my slave" command is because it is permanent, and he doesn't want to rule or permanently take away peoples freedom, that would make him a tyrant and he doesn't want that. That is one of the reasons "zero" exists, because he is a mask that can be set aside when the war is over. And in fact, <strong>SPOILER FOR ENDING</strong>, Lelouch sacrifices his life, letting Suzaku kill him publicly after Zero takes responsibility for the bomb Brtiania used, so that all the rage and hate fostered by the civil war could be put on him, and then he would die so that people could move on with their lives <strong>SPOILER END </strong></p><p></p><p>Does he use underhanded, dirty and terrible tricks to win? Yes, but he is a single man leading a group of a few dozen against a global empire that owns 80% of the land mass of the planet. He knows exactly how ruthless Britanian Royalty can be, and what needs to be done to win. And his end goal isn't to rule that empire, but to make the world a better and safer place. Neutral Good? Chaotic Good? He doesn't care for the Law clearly, but that is also because he sees the law as corrupt and that the system cannot be changed without tearing it down first. But his goals and beliefs are firmly rooted in the soil of making a better world, no matter the cost to himself or his morals.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8049483, member: 6801228"] [LIST] [/LIST] This is a great post, from a great series (been a few years), but it also highlights some problems. Because I disgree with some of your end conclusions. Suzaku, for example, you've put as Lawful Neutral, but you have to paranthesize that he has Good tendencies. Frankly, I'd just put him as Lawful Good, with some missteps do to desperation. He is in fact for most of the series one of the most honest and just people in the series. He is altered somewhat by the system, causing him to push harder into Law than good, but that is in response to the Black Knights, who are a massive terrorist organization (from their perspective) who are tearing the country apart. Yes he believes in systems, but he believes in those systems for the good of the people. And Lelouch, while he does some terrible things, is also a Good person at heart. He sees these actions as necessary to reach a world where his sister can be safe, and where the atrocities he's seen cannot be repeated. The reason he avoids the "be my slave" command is because it is permanent, and he doesn't want to rule or permanently take away peoples freedom, that would make him a tyrant and he doesn't want that. That is one of the reasons "zero" exists, because he is a mask that can be set aside when the war is over. And in fact, [B]SPOILER FOR ENDING[/B], Lelouch sacrifices his life, letting Suzaku kill him publicly after Zero takes responsibility for the bomb Brtiania used, so that all the rage and hate fostered by the civil war could be put on him, and then he would die so that people could move on with their lives [B]SPOILER END [/B] Does he use underhanded, dirty and terrible tricks to win? Yes, but he is a single man leading a group of a few dozen against a global empire that owns 80% of the land mass of the planet. He knows exactly how ruthless Britanian Royalty can be, and what needs to be done to win. And his end goal isn't to rule that empire, but to make the world a better and safer place. Neutral Good? Chaotic Good? He doesn't care for the Law clearly, but that is also because he sees the law as corrupt and that the system cannot be changed without tearing it down first. But his goals and beliefs are firmly rooted in the soil of making a better world, no matter the cost to himself or his morals. [/QUOTE]
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