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WotC's Nathan Stewart: "Story, Story, Story"; and IS D&D a Tabletop Game?
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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 7667772" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>As much as I want to celebrate 5e's success, I really havent been very impressed with tyranny or the Princes stories. In the past year, Paizo's Iron Gods and Giant slayer stories have blown the doors off of WotC's storylines, for quality of NPC development, interesting locations, plot twists, and maturity of subject matter. I swear I had to slog through the first few pages of the Princes of the Apocalypse intro to get intot he story, because that "Elemental Evil is this, Elemental Evil is that" plot monologue was written so awkwardly that it just felt like the first draft of some 13-year old's campaign notes. </p><p></p><p>The rest of the AP was decent, and the cultists actually had good characterization notes, but by comparison, Giantslayer invokes the feel I got from Steading of the Giant Chief and it isn't even a third done yet! iron Gods is about stopping a nascent GOD from apotheosis! I would rather WotC should add more depth of character to their stories, and a slightly darker maturity level, because if I want to convince people to play more 5e, I'm thinking I'm better off using Paizo APs or classic AD& D modules, rather than the tools offered. I want more 5e APs more to give me better alternatives than because they arent fast enough.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 7667772, member: 158"] As much as I want to celebrate 5e's success, I really havent been very impressed with tyranny or the Princes stories. In the past year, Paizo's Iron Gods and Giant slayer stories have blown the doors off of WotC's storylines, for quality of NPC development, interesting locations, plot twists, and maturity of subject matter. I swear I had to slog through the first few pages of the Princes of the Apocalypse intro to get intot he story, because that "Elemental Evil is this, Elemental Evil is that" plot monologue was written so awkwardly that it just felt like the first draft of some 13-year old's campaign notes. The rest of the AP was decent, and the cultists actually had good characterization notes, but by comparison, Giantslayer invokes the feel I got from Steading of the Giant Chief and it isn't even a third done yet! iron Gods is about stopping a nascent GOD from apotheosis! I would rather WotC should add more depth of character to their stories, and a slightly darker maturity level, because if I want to convince people to play more 5e, I'm thinking I'm better off using Paizo APs or classic AD& D modules, rather than the tools offered. I want more 5e APs more to give me better alternatives than because they arent fast enough. [/QUOTE]
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