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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7668635" data-attributes="member: 48965">Go back and read the posts... again I never called 4e a &quot;failure&quot; but claiming 4e financed the development of 5e is a pretty bold statement that goes beyond 4e wasn't a failure or even that 4e was &quot;successful&quot;... and sorry I'm not going to just accept it unless you actually work at WotC and/or have some data to back it up. Here we go... poor 4e the victim edition.&nbsp; Maybe it's that some people for whatever reason continue to want to exaggerate the success of 4e without the requisite proof of said claims... or that they can't accept the other side of the coin... *gasp* that 4e could have actually failed financially...since you decided to jump in, just curious do you have any proof that 4e and DDI financed the development of 5e?&nbsp; That the board games, novels, reprint editions, etc. played no part in the budget that was allotted for 5e development?&nbsp; If so I'd love to hear it... if not the above just sounds like deflection for having to provide some actual proof for the statement that was made by @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582" target="_blank">pemerton</a>.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7668635, member: 48965"] Go back and read the posts... again I never called 4e a "failure" but claiming 4e financed the development of 5e is a pretty bold statement that goes beyond 4e wasn't a failure or even that 4e was "successful"... and sorry I'm not going to just accept it unless you actually work at WotC and/or have some data to back it up. Here we go... poor 4e the victim edition. Maybe it's that some people for whatever reason continue to want to exaggerate the success of 4e without the requisite proof of said claims... or that they can't accept the other side of the coin... *gasp* that 4e could have actually failed financially...since you decided to jump in, just curious do you have any proof that 4e and DDI financed the development of 5e? That the board games, novels, reprint editions, etc. played no part in the budget that was allotted for 5e development? If so I'd love to hear it... if not the above just sounds like deflection for having to provide some actual proof for the statement that was made by @[I][B][U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582"]pemerton[/URL][/U][/B][/I]. [/QUOTE]

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