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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7668760" data-attributes="member: 48965">You do realize I'm agreeing with @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=5728" target="_blank">Io</a>sue... right?  Here's a question... If we don't know where the dollars flow from and to within WotC... why make the statement that 5e was financed by 4e?  That was the original statement I disagreed with since again... novels, boardgames, reprints, etc. all could have contributed to the financing and even the decision to produce a new edition... is this right or wrong?  The fact of the matter is that in stating that we don't know you are in fact agreeing with what I originally said to @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582" target="_blank">pemerton</a> earlier in the thread... so what exactly is your point in quoting me here?I didn't call 4e a failure (find a post in this entire thread where I did)... of course I am also not certain it was as financially successful as you (and some 4e fans) seem to be claiming, since biases work both ways. Which is why I chose not to make a definitive statement either way about it's objective financial success or failure... something 4e fans seem incapable of doing, even though they have no real evidence to support their own claims.  Also did I ever state it was a failure because "it is no longer being published"?  You and @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=22779" target="_blank">Hussar</a> seem to be creating arguments to counter and then attributing them to me... when I never stated them.  Great selling corebooks are a given I'm not sure (unless that's the entirety of the edition) how that proves anything about an editions overall success, failure, profitability, etc...  Also if they want 4e pofits again and DDI is such a gigantic part of 4e profits... why wasn't it moved over to 5e? I'll make the same point here that I made to @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=42582" target="_blank">pemerton</a> since you also seem to be attruibuting a decision that may or may not have been based soelely on the success of the rpg to 4e... Outside of 4e, D&D is novels in various worlds, older edition reprints, PDF's of older books, boardgames, neverwinter the MMOrpg, DDO the MMOrpg, Baldur's Gate the videogame, WizKid's minis, etc. and WotC makes money off all these things... driven initially by the rpg but some, such as the novels, have grown to surpass the rpg in profitability... but you seem sure that the decision to continue with 5e and it's financing was based solely on 4e...right? It's in no way calling 4e a failure to acknowledge that it is not the sole driver in decisions around D&D or the sole source of financing for 5e... in fact it seems as I stated earlier either misinformed or purposefully misleading to ignore the other sources of income and drivers around the D&D brand.</blockquote>

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