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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 7668986" data-attributes="member: 18182">Sorry, but I still feel you're essentially making stuff up. I've heard the $50 mil bandied about . . . was that $50 per year? Per quarter? Per edition? And how close did 4E come to hitting that goal? Did it make it, did it fall short? By how much? YOU DON'T KNOW.I've also heard the "D&D needs to be #1" also thrown around. Did WotC/Hasbro expect D&D to be #1 all 12 months of the year? Did WotC expect D&D to be #1 when they weren't really publishing any products? I have my own guesses, but YOU DON'T KNOW. And really, D&D was only NOT #1 when there was no edition being supported in the dry years between 4E and 5E. When 4E was in full swing, D&D was #1. Now that 5E is in full swing, D&D is #1 again.There is NO evidence that WotC/Hasbro has ever considered 4E a failure. None. They might have! I doubt it personally, but WE DON'T KNOW. Mearls knows, but he won't tell us, neither should he.</blockquote>