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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 5413859" data-attributes="member: 75065">Not surprisingly this thread has quickly devolved into the exposition of the merits of one or the other game system, not dissimilar to a tennis match only (more?) boring.If I was WotC I'd certainly be up to my ***** with the constant, unyeilding criticism. I guess I'm not really one of their 'regular clients' ... I get the goods, get out and get on with the game. I don't buy every single thing they publish, only those I'm certain I will put to good use. With the possibility of irregular subscription patterns to update crunch on the CBuilder gone, I'm potentially even less interesting to WotC now. The online Cbuilder was dropping the ball, for sure, but I really don't care. It affects me so little. I have such a solid system to build the game I want to play upon I really don't need much else at this point.I guess you could say I don't need WotC, and WotC doesn't need me.But I do appreciate them for the awesome tool they have given me. I don't need any more inspiration to make the bits in between, during, before and after combat 'more than just a board game'. And yet their change in marketing has piqued my interest. Monster Vault = wow!! (wow as in the word wow, not the abbreviation for World of W ... anyway I digress). The tokens that came with that box has me really thinking whether I need to buy minis any more. And another one is on its way next year? If it goes down the same line of monster that appears in book has a corresponding token, well, I guess I'm going to get snagged again. Ravenloft board game ... yep I want that too. And when they release the boxed set that fits into the Underdark ... well depending on what is inside thay may get me again. Pretty smart of them, at least from where I'm standing.As for their recent insanity... I'm unsure what Mercurius is referring to exactly. The most recent debacle has been mainly concerned with DDI. I don't know what is going on there either, but I don't think it has much to do with WotC's desire, or lack thereof, to alienate themselves from a now unwanted older fanbase. I think it's more of a desperate attempt to defend themselves from piracy. This has stepped on a lot of toes. But I think with regards to piracy, although the battle is not won, they are certainly putting up a decent fight. As for the mags, well people say that the content is waning. Shrug* This sounds to me like that is probably due to financial decsions/restrictions that go far beyond Bill Slavic's control. Anyone mentioned yet that we are presently in the heart of a rampant world economic crisis?The other point I'd like to comment on, that nobody has mentioned yet, is Mercurius' idea that WotC has already failed to pass the D&D torch onto the next generation. That torch is in my hands. And yours, Mercurius. Have you attempted to begin a game with any of your students only to have it fall on its face because they weren't into it? Or with any of these hopeless young people you know: nieces, nephews, sons, daughters, grandchildren? My kids are 5 and 2 respectively. We have a game going with 5 other children involved the same age based on simplified 4e rules. The parents help and 'surpervise' the character sheet business which has a lot of visual icons drawn on them to represent powers (as they are still in the process of learning to read). To put it plainly ... they absolutely love it. Yeah, they like videogames too, and movies. But they also totally get into D&D. I'd say this would be a pretty universal experience. Kids enjoying actually sitting down with their parents and playing an awesome game with miniatures, dice, monsters, magic, danger and mystery, instead of being thrown in front of the idiot box and left to blob out so that dad can get the dinner ready and mum can finish checking the tax returns. What the future holds for WotC ... my guess is only as good as the next guys. Colour me as concerned as I am for the welfare of the Mars company who makes Snickers bars which I very much enjoy eating, much to the detriment of my good health. But you can be sure as  cheese on toast that I'm going to do my damnedest to get my kids into D&D... And from the looks, it isn't going to take much of a struggle at all.Hmm ... maybe WotC needs me/wants me/loves me after all...</blockquote>

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