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<blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 5414785" data-attributes="member: 9213">This is me EXACTLY.I've played/supported every edition since Red Box basic. Even though I moved away from 2nd Ed eventually I played for about 4 - 5 years before I did so. 4E is the first edition that I havent supported. I've moved on to Pathfinder as my fantasy RPG and as long as it's around that's what I'll be playing. WOTC has effectively lost me as a fan of D&amp;D and that's OK. I'm playing what I like. 4E's design is not for me and I'm glad that I see that people in this thread have seen the same thing about it that I have. It's not a terrible game just not the game that I want to play.And seriously? No one wants to build a castle of fort? Most of my players, especially in the 1E days either wanted to or actually DID build bases and small castles and fort. If for no other reason than to have a place to store their loot! I had players figuring out how much gold they'd need to build something then HAND ME THE LAYOUT ON GRAPH PAPER. From my recollection this sort of thing was kind of encouraged if not in the rules (I dont have my 1E DM's guide anymore *sniff*) but in Dragon Magazine articles as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ShinHakkaider, post: 5414785, member: 9213"] This is me EXACTLY. I've played/supported every edition since Red Box basic. Even though I moved away from 2nd Ed eventually I played for about 4 - 5 years before I did so. 4E is the first edition that I havent supported. I've moved on to Pathfinder as my fantasy RPG and as long as it's around that's what I'll be playing. WOTC has effectively lost me as a fan of D&D and that's OK. I'm playing what I like. 4E's design is not for me and I'm glad that I see that people in this thread have seen the same thing about it that I have. It's not a terrible game just not the game that I want to play. And seriously? No one wants to build a castle of fort? Most of my players, especially in the 1E days either wanted to or actually DID build bases and small castles and fort. If for no other reason than to have a place to store their loot! I had players figuring out how much gold they'd need to build something then HAND ME THE LAYOUT ON GRAPH PAPER. From my recollection this sort of thing was kind of encouraged if not in the rules (I dont have my 1E DM's guide anymore *sniff*) but in Dragon Magazine articles as well. [/QUOTE]

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