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<blockquote data-quote="Thornir Alekeg" data-source="post: 5420038" data-attributes="member: 15651">Perhaps some will disagree, but the combat system is at the heart of all versions of D&amp;D.&nbsp; It's the reason we all say &quot;I kill them and take their stuff,&quot; not, &quot;I persuade them to give up their stuff.&quot;So as I think back to when 2e came out (really hazy memories), when 3e came out (much more clear) and now with 4e, what I experienced was at the beginning, the games were much more combat oriented.&nbsp; We were learning the new rules and since combat is the heart of the rules system, that was the initial focus.&nbsp; Over time we became experienced and comfortable with the combat rules and we expanded our game to have more depth.&nbsp; If for some reason we ever were dissatisfied with the combat rules of a new edition, the odds are we would have given up on it, and never having really pushed the game beyond those early combat-focused runsand would have limited opportunity to judge the merits of the game in greater depth.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thornir Alekeg, post: 5420038, member: 15651"] Perhaps some will disagree, but the combat system is at the heart of all versions of D&D. It's the reason we all say "I kill them and take their stuff," not, "I persuade them to give up their stuff." So as I think back to when 2e came out (really hazy memories), when 3e came out (much more clear) and now with 4e, what I experienced was at the beginning, the games were much more combat oriented. We were learning the new rules and since combat is the heart of the rules system, that was the initial focus. Over time we became experienced and comfortable with the combat rules and we expanded our game to have more depth. If for some reason we ever were dissatisfied with the combat rules of a new edition, the odds are we would have given up on it, and never having really pushed the game beyond those early combat-focused runsand would have limited opportunity to judge the merits of the game in greater depth. [/QUOTE]

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