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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5420380" data-attributes="member: 80487">So does getting only +x, based on difference in levels. So what? (Those of a logical bent can see that &quot;what&quot; is you arguing with great clarity against yourself!)No kidding?I don't see high level Powers, etc., as less qualitatively rather than simply quantitatively stronger than low level ones. Why do you make a false claim about what I wrote when it's there for anyone to see?All of them up through level+4 (&quot;very difficult&quot;) are meant to be beatable. I take your point, though. This is indeed not a sound basis for assessment of the question.Says who? I'm not seeing a stipulation that DMs must be Lawful Stupid in the 3.5 PHB or DMG. (I don't have the 3.0 books handy.)Where is the rule that circumstantial modifiers do not apply? That's the really big deal to me, because if an idiotic move is as good as a brilliant one, then you can get yourself a Dragonbone because I'm a game player not just a random number generator.Where are the supposed &quot;no leeway&quot; definitions of what actions result and for how long? Where is the admonition that there is no downside?Mind you, I'm not inclined to quibble if someone with a bonus of +49 (equivalent to a charisma score of 108 or 109) goes about routinely and repeatedly changing attitudes from &quot;hostile&quot; to &quot;helpful&quot; with just a smile.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 5420380, member: 80487"] So does getting only +x, based on difference in levels. So what? (Those of a logical bent can see that "what" is you arguing with great clarity [i]against yourself[/i]!) No kidding? I don't see high level Powers, etc., as [b]less[/b] qualitatively rather than simply quantitatively stronger than low level ones. Why do you make a false claim about what I wrote when it's there for anyone to see? All of them up through level+4 ("very difficult") are meant to be beatable. I take your point, though. This is indeed not a sound basis for assessment of the question. Says who? I'm not seeing a stipulation that DMs must be Lawful Stupid in the 3.5 PHB or DMG. (I don't have the 3.0 books handy.) Where is the rule that circumstantial modifiers do not apply? That's the really big deal to me, because if an idiotic move is as good as a brilliant one, then you can get yourself a Dragonbone because I'm a [i]game player[/i] not just a random number generator. Where are the supposed "no leeway" definitions of what actions result and for how long? Where is the admonition that there is no downside? Mind you, I'm not inclined to quibble if someone with a bonus of +49 (equivalent to a charisma score of 108 or 109) goes about routinely and repeatedly changing attitudes from "hostile" to "helpful" with just a smile. [/QUOTE]

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