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<blockquote data-quote="incognito" data-source="post: 550794" data-attributes="member: 7008">Hong: I have played, low (3-7), mid (8-12), and ultra high (18+) 3E.&nbsp; I know all about &quot;options.&quot;&nbsp; I also know it's better to hit for d8+4, and have +12 to your will save, than hit for d8+8, and have +6 to your Will save.Fast move offset by fly?&nbsp; What's stopping you from flying to?&nbsp; Ditto on the boots.Ambidex and TWF useless?&nbsp; Perhaps your familiar with the &quot;shield expert&quot; feat, and the +1 special ability &quot;bashing.&quot;&nbsp; ther are other exmaples, but this one does nicely.AS for your comments on saves, I'd rather have Stong Fort and Will saves than strong reflex.&nbsp; Generally speaking, reflex saves do damage.&nbsp; And I can heal damage.&nbsp; And if I am a cleric, I can cast endure elements. Fort/Will saves are 1-shot take outs (Poly-Other, and Hold person).&nbsp; Tell me which you'd rather save against at L7, a 7d6 lightning bolt, or Hold Person (both L3 Wizard spells).&nbsp;Bull.&nbsp; Our L12 part had a Dwarven Cleric with a 22 CON had 130ish hp.&nbsp; As a Cleric/Paladin with a 16 CON I had under 100.&nbsp; When the Power Word Stun went off he was affected for 2 rounds, while I was out for 6.&nbsp; Isn't haste great?There were also plenty of time that he took Literally 100 pts of damge in a round, only to cast Heal, the next round.&nbsp; Seems good to me.Endur, your next!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="incognito, post: 550794, member: 7008"] Hong: I have played, low (3-7), mid (8-12), and ultra high (18+) 3E. I know all about "options." I also know it's better to hit for d8+4, and have +12 to your will save, than hit for d8+8, and have +6 to your Will save. Fast move offset by fly? What's stopping you from flying to? Ditto on the boots. Ambidex and TWF useless? Perhaps your familiar with the "shield expert" feat, and the +1 special ability "bashing." ther are other exmaples, but this one does nicely. AS for your comments on saves, I'd rather have Stong Fort and Will saves than strong reflex. Generally speaking, reflex saves do damage. And I can heal damage. And if I am a cleric, I can cast [i]endure elements[/i]. Fort/Will saves are 1-shot take outs (Poly-Other, and Hold person). Tell me which you'd rather save against at L7, a 7d6 lightning bolt, or Hold Person (both L3 Wizard spells). Bull. Our L12 part had a Dwarven Cleric with a 22 CON had 130ish hp. As a Cleric/Paladin with a 16 CON I had under 100. When the [i]Power Word Stun[/i] went off he was affected for 2 rounds, while I was out for 6. Isn't haste great? There were also plenty of time that he took Literally 100 pts of damge in a round, only to cast [i]Heal[/i], the next round. Seems good to me. Endur, your next! [/QUOTE]

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