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<blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 553836" data-attributes="member: 537"><p>Okay, so it's not a DD. I still have no idea why you're so worked up about this particular multiclassed 7th level character. For every ability they get, they lose something else, or it's something that becomes irrelevant later on.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>At 7th level? Snort. From a 1st level cleric? Snort squared.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>For a 7th level character, a 10d6 fireball is nothing to be sneezed at. Now when people start throwing disintegrates, FoDs, PwKs, multiply-empowered fireballs and so forth, that may change. But it seems that you weren't talking about that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is one less healing spell, which you seem to think are ubiquitous in nature.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Monsters not only do more damage, they can _take_ more damage. And it doesn't have to be via melee attacks, either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It helps if you can speak de English, ya know?</p><p></p><p>Assuming you mean that party synergies mean that you can afford to specialise in your niche without worrying too much about shortcomings, that's absolutely correct. It's also something that applies to _any_ character, multiclassed or not. So what if this particular multiclassed PC can take advantage of heals, buffs and whatnot from his friends? The single-classed PC can do exactly the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So this particular guy has spent all his resources on maxing out his AC. That's his decision.</p><p></p><p>Breath weapon.</p><p>Touch spells.</p><p>Area-effect spells.</p><p>Grapple.</p><p>Greater dispelling (voila, no more haste or magic vestment).</p><p>Flight (why bash the guy up, when you can go around him?).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Go ahead, make my day. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Something that anyone can do, not just a DD. They will probably have an easier time, too, if the DD insists on living up to his schtick.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In our last couple of sessions, I remember half-a-dozen heals being cast. Running out of charges won't take long, especially if your tanks insist on standing there and taking it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hong, post: 553836, member: 537"] Okay, so it's not a DD. I still have no idea why you're so worked up about this particular multiclassed 7th level character. For every ability they get, they lose something else, or it's something that becomes irrelevant later on. At 7th level? Snort. From a 1st level cleric? Snort squared. For a 7th level character, a 10d6 fireball is nothing to be sneezed at. Now when people start throwing disintegrates, FoDs, PwKs, multiply-empowered fireballs and so forth, that may change. But it seems that you weren't talking about that. Which is one less healing spell, which you seem to think are ubiquitous in nature. Monsters not only do more damage, they can _take_ more damage. And it doesn't have to be via melee attacks, either. It helps if you can speak de English, ya know? Assuming you mean that party synergies mean that you can afford to specialise in your niche without worrying too much about shortcomings, that's absolutely correct. It's also something that applies to _any_ character, multiclassed or not. So what if this particular multiclassed PC can take advantage of heals, buffs and whatnot from his friends? The single-classed PC can do exactly the same. So this particular guy has spent all his resources on maxing out his AC. That's his decision. Breath weapon. Touch spells. Area-effect spells. Grapple. Greater dispelling (voila, no more haste or magic vestment). Flight (why bash the guy up, when you can go around him?). Go ahead, make my day. :cool: Something that anyone can do, not just a DD. They will probably have an easier time, too, if the DD insists on living up to his schtick. In our last couple of sessions, I remember half-a-dozen heals being cast. Running out of charges won't take long, especially if your tanks insist on standing there and taking it. [/QUOTE]
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