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Message: <blockquote data-quote="incognito" data-source="post: 560491" data-attributes="member: 7008">Bret: I was comparing L20 to L20 to show how multi classing played out for both choices (Fighter/DD,a nd Fighter/Barb)Arcane Runes Press: Ih the interest of saving space, you don't have to quite my who thread.  Here is short rebutt to your rebutt (to my jdavids rebutt?)1) Again, this in in your opinion.  In a dungeon, mobility is not as much of an issue.  And AC is always important, as is the ability to choose you actions.  There are a varity of things you may not be allowed to do, when raging, depending on the DM.  Not so for DD, there is one single thing they cannot do.  Also, the defensive stance gives MORE bones (the AC bonus, and +2 to reflex and fort saves above the bonus CON).  If you don't concede they are equivalent, we can simply move on - I feel your not being reasonable, if you cannot give this much.2) PrCs however, tend to be move versatile in covering a character's weak points.  Also, since many of the PrC require meeting this type of monster, or being introduced to an orginzation, players can steamroll that requirement, putting it into backstory, rather than earning it in-game.3) oh, for the love of!!!...What part of: ...Don't you undestand?  I am simply leaning, I did NOT count this toward the DD positives.  If your going to debate something, pick something that a poster takes a stand on.  I ALREADY said it was a wash...You and I do agree on something though, classes need mroe skill points.  2 per level is a joke, and 4 per level covers the basics.  How they expect bards to get by with 4 is crazy, right?</blockquote>

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