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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Sophist" data-source="post: 1963756" data-attributes="member: 25390">A lot of crap has been spewed in this thread, but I think Rasyr places his finger on a major vein here...I agree with this.  Hasbro definitely know where the profits are --  they're with minis (you Suckas!  anyone over the age of 20 should feel shame ...  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />  ).I can see why there might be a motivation to make it a closed system, but I doubt this very much.  The reason is simple: with the OGL, the genie is out of the bottle. If 'Has bored-of-the-Coast' decided to make a closed system, they would immediately splinter the market between the OGL faction and the new non-OGL faction.Mongoose (with their 'pocket' versions of the PHB & DMG) would instantly leap into the gap, and produce hardback version of the "old" OGL rules.The market would be split.  Okay, this is NOT an impossibility.  If Hasbro decided that the profits gained from a smaller slice of the RPG market PLUS the profits from their 'action figures' (whoops, I mean 'plastic minis') outweighed the profits gained from being the main system of RPGers, then they might make 4e a 'closed system'.Yup.  Branding rules.But only so far ...In other worlds, normal laws of human behaviour will apply.  How shocking!   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />   Yes ... branding ... painfully TRUE.  But not a guarantee ... (how many people still buy Commodore computers?) ...Whining will happen, but if it is similar to 3.x and OGL the whining will be less than it will be if WotC cuts off the OGL teat.I think this is the one overwhelmingly correct insight of your post, Rasyr.  Hasbro know where the money is.  3.5 was FAR MORE 'miniatures-dependent' than 3.0 (and 3.0 was already pretty dependent on minis).   But maybe the ultimate oldschoolers will be happy  -- a final return to "Chainmail-plus-fantasy supplement!"  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></blockquote>

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