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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8875418" data-attributes="member: 7006">I'm saying that if you really want "WotC's overbearing influence" (as you put it) to stop being on top of the hobby... then you have to be a part of that stop.  And the only way that happens is if people stop giving their time and energy towards WotC and 5E and spend their time on the games they actually like.For instance, I don't give a rat's ass about Pathfinder.  Good or bad.  So I have never once posted in the Pathfinder subforum and probably have only glanced at it a few times over the last dozen years.  And I'm even playing in a PF game right now!  But by me not spending any of my time or energy adding to that subforum by posting in it... the forum is just ever-so-slightly smaller.  Which means other people who might come here and take a look see a forum just ever-so-slightly less active, and thus perhaps they decide not to get involve either (or simply get involved less, because there's less "going on" there.)  And if you take my decision and you multiply it by all the other people who also don't care about Pathfinder... eventually the board gets smaller and smaller with nothing of interest to talk about and less new people come looking for it because it's become smaller and smaller.   And eventually the Pathfinder board loses influence, cache, and maybe even dies out down the line.  And when you take that lack of interest in the subforum and you translate it over to the game, the game then becomes smaller and smaller as well, with less influence or cache.  Which is exactly what we have right now... a Pathfinder (and especially a Pathfinder 2) which does not in any way hold any sway in the gaming marketplace like they used to when they were poised up against 4E and were dominant.And some of the folks here want 5E to follow suit?  Then you gotta follow the same playbook.Isn't the old cliche "There is no bad press"?  And that's exactly what is happening here.  By constantly talking about D&D 5E (even negatively) you are keeping these boards alive and keeping interactions on the game alive and keeping engagement with the game alive.  And thus you are doing the exact opposite of what you need to be doing to lessen WotC's overbearing influence.  5E can't go away if you won't let it leave.  And this is true for everyone-- if you truly want the game to reduce its influence and die out... you have to take that first step by being one of the people to just walk away from it and not engage.  Only then will other people begin to follow suit... and then ever-so-slowly WotC's influence over the hobby might slowly degrade.</blockquote>

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