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would a paladin hate a cleric of wee jas? vice-versa?
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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2550218" data-attributes="member: 23094"><p>Actually, Sejs did. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Also, I disagree that actions inform alignment.</p><p></p><p>A Paladin who willingly and knowingly commits an Evil act is a Fallen Paladin - but that doesn't mean he's no longer Lawful Good.</p><p></p><p><strong>Certain</strong> actions have an inherent alignment - like casting an aligned spell.</p><p></p><p>However, it is the action, together with the intention of the actor, that truly determines alignment. Someone can be Good and commit horrible atrocities so long as they remain convinced that what they are doing is the best way to serve Good. Note, then, the difference between a Good character and a Neutral or Evil character in the above situation. </p><p></p><p>The Good character will regret his actions, and will attempt to find ways to ameliorate and minimize the unintended effects of his actions. The Neutral will pursue what is most rational, and the Evil one will revel in the bloodshed.</p><p></p><p>It is by this manner that Good can fall via temptation. Take, for instance, a fallen paladin from the FRCS (Scyulla Darkhope, of Zhentil Keep). She fell because she spared a devil's life. But that's not really the whole story. The devil pleaded for its life, promising to turn over its far-flung minions to her in exchange for a few more hours of existence on the mortal plane. It promised the availability of many [Good] actions for a relatively minor [Evil] one now.</p><p></p><p>And it did provide the paladin with targeting info, and Scyulla went merrily along, eradicating several devils and stymying their diabolic plots. [Good] actions, right? Wrong - because, eventually, Scyulla stopped fighting them <strong>for the right reasons</strong>. Eventually, she did her work for the thrill of victory and the glory it gained her, and no longer for the protection of others. She fell because she continued to perform [Good] actions for [Evil] reasons.</p><p></p><p>Oh - and, for the record, I disagree that channeling negative energy should be an [Evil] act. Some uses of it, yes, but not all. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 2550218, member: 23094"] Actually, Sejs did. :) Also, I disagree that actions inform alignment. A Paladin who willingly and knowingly commits an Evil act is a Fallen Paladin - but that doesn't mean he's no longer Lawful Good. [b]Certain[/b] actions have an inherent alignment - like casting an aligned spell. However, it is the action, together with the intention of the actor, that truly determines alignment. Someone can be Good and commit horrible atrocities so long as they remain convinced that what they are doing is the best way to serve Good. Note, then, the difference between a Good character and a Neutral or Evil character in the above situation. The Good character will regret his actions, and will attempt to find ways to ameliorate and minimize the unintended effects of his actions. The Neutral will pursue what is most rational, and the Evil one will revel in the bloodshed. It is by this manner that Good can fall via temptation. Take, for instance, a fallen paladin from the FRCS (Scyulla Darkhope, of Zhentil Keep). She fell because she spared a devil's life. But that's not really the whole story. The devil pleaded for its life, promising to turn over its far-flung minions to her in exchange for a few more hours of existence on the mortal plane. It promised the availability of many [Good] actions for a relatively minor [Evil] one now. And it did provide the paladin with targeting info, and Scyulla went merrily along, eradicating several devils and stymying their diabolic plots. [Good] actions, right? Wrong - because, eventually, Scyulla stopped fighting them [b]for the right reasons[/b]. Eventually, she did her work for the thrill of victory and the glory it gained her, and no longer for the protection of others. She fell because she continued to perform [Good] actions for [Evil] reasons. Oh - and, for the record, I disagree that channeling negative energy should be an [Evil] act. Some uses of it, yes, but not all. :) [/QUOTE]
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