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Would a repeat of the large errata from the previous edition put you off of Next?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 6283078" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>You said earlier you cannot comprehend the argument people are making against the quantity of errata. And now I think you're failing again to understand the objection. I will try to clarify, since I assume your intent is to understand.</p><p></p><p>There cannot be goalpost moving when I describe one reason why I object to a format of errata - there's no goal to begin with, it's just my opinion. More importantly, I was not responding to anyone else, so impossible to strawman someone. Finally, let's talk about strawmanning for a moment, since you did respond to my opinion - when I say "one reason something bothers me is X", that's not me saying "It's only good if you can do X". </p><p></p><p>There are benefits and drawbacks to printing out and pasting errata into a book. I said I think one INTENT of doing it in that format was to service that common thing people were doing, and I think it didn't service that very well after a while because it was often so long, compared to the original text, that you could no longer practically do that anymore.</p><p></p><p>At no time did I say errata is only useful if you can do that with that. So stop it. Stop telling people they're saying something they're not. You've done it a lot in this thread. Repeatedly when people stressed "quantity of errata" you twisted it to say "any errata". And when people objected to it, you accused them of edition warring and hating 4e. I loved 4e - the errata did not stop me from loving 4e. But I found THE QUANTITY OF ERRATA (not the mere existence of any errata) to be A PROBLEM (not the end all and be all of the edition, just an issue). It was a problem I could work with, but it was an ongoing and growing nuisance over time. It was too much for me.</p><p></p><p>Now is that clear? Have I made it utterly clear it's about quantity, and also not a deal breaker? Is it now obvious I don't hate 4e and am not saying this because of some hidden motive to edition war?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 6283078, member: 2525"] You said earlier you cannot comprehend the argument people are making against the quantity of errata. And now I think you're failing again to understand the objection. I will try to clarify, since I assume your intent is to understand. There cannot be goalpost moving when I describe one reason why I object to a format of errata - there's no goal to begin with, it's just my opinion. More importantly, I was not responding to anyone else, so impossible to strawman someone. Finally, let's talk about strawmanning for a moment, since you did respond to my opinion - when I say "one reason something bothers me is X", that's not me saying "It's only good if you can do X". There are benefits and drawbacks to printing out and pasting errata into a book. I said I think one INTENT of doing it in that format was to service that common thing people were doing, and I think it didn't service that very well after a while because it was often so long, compared to the original text, that you could no longer practically do that anymore. At no time did I say errata is only useful if you can do that with that. So stop it. Stop telling people they're saying something they're not. You've done it a lot in this thread. Repeatedly when people stressed "quantity of errata" you twisted it to say "any errata". And when people objected to it, you accused them of edition warring and hating 4e. I loved 4e - the errata did not stop me from loving 4e. But I found THE QUANTITY OF ERRATA (not the mere existence of any errata) to be A PROBLEM (not the end all and be all of the edition, just an issue). It was a problem I could work with, but it was an ongoing and growing nuisance over time. It was too much for me. Now is that clear? Have I made it utterly clear it's about quantity, and also not a deal breaker? Is it now obvious I don't hate 4e and am not saying this because of some hidden motive to edition war? [/QUOTE]
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