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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Amazing Dingo" data-source="post: 1935458" data-attributes="member: 23353">For the first part, it might be possible by the raw.  Looking at Minor Image it depends on if you consider darkness to be an "object, creature, or force" (from SRD for Minor Image) and I think that argument could be made.However, I don't think I'd allow it.  Let us compare Minor Image as a Wiz/Sor 1 versus Darkness, a level 2 Wiz/Sor spell.DarknessCasting Time: 1 standard actionRange: TouchTarget: Object touchedDuration: 10 min./level (D)Saving Throw: NoneSpell Resistance: NoSilent ImageCasting Time: 1 standard actionRange: Long (400 ft. + 40 ft./level)Effect: Visual figment that cannot extend beyond four 10-ft. cubes + one 10-ft. cube/level (S)Duration: ConcentrationSaving Throw: Will disbelief (if interacted with)Spell Resistance: NoCasting Times are the same.  No Biggie there.  Look at the range though!  For a first level spell, you'd be able to cast Darkness at a range of aleast 440 feet at first level (versus Touch).  In the Effect area, Darkness still wins out and Darkness allows no Saving Throw.  The other point is the duration, which I think Darkness wins out on.  However, I think that the ability to cast Darkness at that range is using the rules in a way they were never meant to be used.  For a higher level Illusion Spell, I could see it used in such a manner.So while it might be allowed by the rules, I'd still disallow it.Concerning seeing through it I'm not sure.  It is considered "magical darkness" because, if so, I'd not allow it.  I could see it going either way on that one.</blockquote>

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