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Would evasion help low CR monsters against a high level party?
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<blockquote data-quote="Yavathol" data-source="post: 7237938" data-attributes="member: 33284"><p>Some great suggestions there, thanks guys! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p><p></p><p>At the moment this isn't a problem, but I thought one of the design aims for 5e was to make it so that low CR monsters could still be used at higher levels; maybe that was dropped at some point during development. It would certainly help with the verisimilitude where initially towns get threatened by orcs and guards are low level, and that gradually changes until towns are threatened by, I dunno, giants, the guards are mid level and there's not an orc or bugbear in sight!</p><p></p><p>My experience so far has been with Storm Kings Thunder when fighting the Uthgardt, so the PCs aren't particularly high level.</p><p></p><p>I think I'll try the 3e style Evasion as several people suggested. I don't particularly like giving Orcs and Uthgardt special rules and equipment like large shields and tarps; they're not expecting to be attacked by a wizard. The Evade attack option is intended to partially simulate using anything to hand as cover, while still having some cost, since they can't Dodge as well.</p><p></p><p>And sauce for the goose.. Seems less unfair if the PCs have that option as well?</p><p></p><p>Thinking about it overnight, spells like sleep still take monsters out of the fight instantly, there's probably others I haven't thought of..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yavathol, post: 7237938, member: 33284"] Some great suggestions there, thanks guys! :-) At the moment this isn't a problem, but I thought one of the design aims for 5e was to make it so that low CR monsters could still be used at higher levels; maybe that was dropped at some point during development. It would certainly help with the verisimilitude where initially towns get threatened by orcs and guards are low level, and that gradually changes until towns are threatened by, I dunno, giants, the guards are mid level and there's not an orc or bugbear in sight! My experience so far has been with Storm Kings Thunder when fighting the Uthgardt, so the PCs aren't particularly high level. I think I'll try the 3e style Evasion as several people suggested. I don't particularly like giving Orcs and Uthgardt special rules and equipment like large shields and tarps; they're not expecting to be attacked by a wizard. The Evade attack option is intended to partially simulate using anything to hand as cover, while still having some cost, since they can't Dodge as well. And sauce for the goose.. Seems less unfair if the PCs have that option as well? Thinking about it overnight, spells like sleep still take monsters out of the fight instantly, there's probably others I haven't thought of.. [/QUOTE]
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