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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6216674" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>Tabletop Roleplaying is niche for sure. </p><p></p><p>Both wargames and card games (collectible and otherwise) have the advantage of being able to drop in and out. There's no narrative to track, regular play to stay competitive is not required, and the minimum number of participants is lower. </p><p>Wargames and CCGs are also more traditional games: you have a winner and a loser, there's competition, and all players participate equally. There's less explanation needed. You know what you're getting with a board game, you don't know what you're getting with an RPG.</p><p>The buy-in of board games, wargames, and CCGs is also lower, both in terms of time and money. You buy the game, read a short rulebook, and can play freely. RPGs often have a high price point, Pathfinder and Dungeons & Dragons especially, and have the longest rulebooks known to man. And the prep time for the GM is huge, even for simple systems. And the minimum time for a game is measured in hours.</p><p></p><p>CCGs also have a low shelf space requirement that makes them easily available in non-exclusive venues, like Targets or WalMarts. Booster packs are excellent impulse purchases. Most wargames and other board games are self-contained, being boxed, so it's easy to find shelf space. Loose rulebooks and odd dice are tricky and seem out of place on shelves of boxed games.</p><p></p><p>All this makes TTRPGs trickier beasts to manage. While it's possible that RPGs could gain ground as more people learn what D&D is and the conventions of role-playing. But the requirements on number of players and time and difficulty only playing one-of games make this harder. You can have a "board game night" with friends and have people over to try a couple different games, but that doesn't work with RPGs. RPGs are almost a lifestyle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6216674, member: 37579"] Tabletop Roleplaying is niche for sure. Both wargames and card games (collectible and otherwise) have the advantage of being able to drop in and out. There's no narrative to track, regular play to stay competitive is not required, and the minimum number of participants is lower. Wargames and CCGs are also more traditional games: you have a winner and a loser, there's competition, and all players participate equally. There's less explanation needed. You know what you're getting with a board game, you don't know what you're getting with an RPG. The buy-in of board games, wargames, and CCGs is also lower, both in terms of time and money. You buy the game, read a short rulebook, and can play freely. RPGs often have a high price point, Pathfinder and Dungeons & Dragons especially, and have the longest rulebooks known to man. And the prep time for the GM is huge, even for simple systems. And the minimum time for a game is measured in hours. CCGs also have a low shelf space requirement that makes them easily available in non-exclusive venues, like Targets or WalMarts. Booster packs are excellent impulse purchases. Most wargames and other board games are self-contained, being boxed, so it's easy to find shelf space. Loose rulebooks and odd dice are tricky and seem out of place on shelves of boxed games. All this makes TTRPGs trickier beasts to manage. While it's possible that RPGs could gain ground as more people learn what D&D is and the conventions of role-playing. But the requirements on number of players and time and difficulty only playing one-of games make this harder. You can have a "board game night" with friends and have people over to try a couple different games, but that doesn't work with RPGs. RPGs are almost a lifestyle. [/QUOTE]
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