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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6217808" data-attributes="member: 37579"><p>True. But they've never needed to design a system before. </p><p></p><p></p><p>*Spitake*</p><p>What?!? </p><p>Okay, they run playtests annually to make sure their hardcover rulebooks have extra solid systems. Just because 3e has some pretty big mechanical flaws doesn't mean they don't care for mechanics. </p><p>Yes, they could have made further changes between 3e and Pathfinder. But they were limited on time and the initial desire to make things backwards compatible. Backwards compatibility seemed more huge back then, but hindsight is what it is.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There's a market, but there isn't a market equal to their current market sitting around waiting. Two competing product lines is a huge financial mistake. How huge? It drove TSR out of buisness huge. The Beginner Box is what it is, an easy and simpler way to get into the main Pathfinder game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Paizo hasn't made a full RPG because they don't have to. But they've made numerous large subsystems such as mass combat, kingdom building, and Mythic. They certainly have the design chops to design an RPG. </p><p></p><p>Here's the thing, Paizo isn't a person. It's a company. It's a company made up of talented designers. And, funny enough, many of those designers worked for WotC. If they really wanted, I'm sure they could hire more WotC allumni with game design experience (as WotC keeps laying them off). But they have some people on staff (or who regularly freelance) who helped design 3e and/or 4e. Oh, and one person who designed Basic. </p><p>So they're not lacking in experience. </p><p>Oh... plus the CEO of Paizo helped with the design and/or testing of Ars Magica, Vampire: the Masquerade, Magic: the Gathering and was at WotC during the design of 3e. </p><p></p><p></p><p>And how many RPG games does WotC support? One as well. Although they tweak it occasionally with licence and other IP, but it's still the same game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6217808, member: 37579"] True. But they've never needed to design a system before. *Spitake* What?!? Okay, they run playtests annually to make sure their hardcover rulebooks have extra solid systems. Just because 3e has some pretty big mechanical flaws doesn't mean they don't care for mechanics. Yes, they could have made further changes between 3e and Pathfinder. But they were limited on time and the initial desire to make things backwards compatible. Backwards compatibility seemed more huge back then, but hindsight is what it is. There's a market, but there isn't a market equal to their current market sitting around waiting. Two competing product lines is a huge financial mistake. How huge? It drove TSR out of buisness huge. The Beginner Box is what it is, an easy and simpler way to get into the main Pathfinder game. Paizo hasn't made a full RPG because they don't have to. But they've made numerous large subsystems such as mass combat, kingdom building, and Mythic. They certainly have the design chops to design an RPG. Here's the thing, Paizo isn't a person. It's a company. It's a company made up of talented designers. And, funny enough, many of those designers worked for WotC. If they really wanted, I'm sure they could hire more WotC allumni with game design experience (as WotC keeps laying them off). But they have some people on staff (or who regularly freelance) who helped design 3e and/or 4e. Oh, and one person who designed Basic. So they're not lacking in experience. Oh... plus the CEO of Paizo helped with the design and/or testing of Ars Magica, Vampire: the Masquerade, Magic: the Gathering and was at WotC during the design of 3e. And how many RPG games does WotC support? One as well. Although they tweak it occasionally with licence and other IP, but it's still the same game. [/QUOTE]
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