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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 6217892" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>Believe it or not NeonChameleon, I see your point and I am not disagreeing specifically on questioning whether they would be good stewards over ALL of D&D (inclusive of OD&D, B/X, BECMI/ AD&D and 2e) or not, as I don't know, I am unsure.</p><p></p><p>The shopfront is ALL they can do in many instances because LEGALLY, if they promote AD&D or other older D&D like you want to see, they may GET SUED. That's a pretty big deterent...don't you think.</p><p></p><p>However, ON THEIR FRONT PAGE, AT THE VERY TOP, Paizo regularly advertises. Half the time it is for something for Pathfinder, HOWEVER, OTHER TIMES, IT IS FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S WORK OR GAME that they are advertising. </p><p></p><p>Now, with OSRIC, the final document that I got, I actually got from Paizo. It was NOT from a front page ad, but more directed there by the Paizo staff and conversations with a friend. The friend was interested in it from something they saw on Paizo, downloaded it, and then printed it out and we went over the document with each other to determine whether he would run it or not.</p><p></p><p>Now my preference is simply to run 1e, since that's what I already own. That's what we ended up running, but that was MY influence. If it was from Paizo, it would have probably been OSRIC, which by the way, is part of the entire OSR movement. </p><p></p><p>In a nutshell, I'm not disagreeing whether Paizo would or would not be good stewards over the entire namesake of D&D other than to say...they may be, or might not be. I am unsure. However, the idea that they don't support other games or writers or game writers or game systems, I feel is flawed.</p><p></p><p>They CREATE specifically for their system, and that's what you are pointing out. They have limited resources. They have something that sells. Rather than divide those resources and have more costs vs. profit, they decide to create specifically for the product they already have. That's more of a business situation rather than anything dealing with what they'd desire to do. We know that they DO promote, and even sell, other 3rd party products. That's a hopeful sign.</p><p></p><p>On the otherhand, they have focused all their efforts on their primary product for what they themselves produce (though they do have an open call in regards to freelance work and you or others creating gaming items [as long as you have the proper rights to do so] in order for them to sell that type of gaming material on their storefront) in regards to money and profit.</p><p></p><p>So, I don't know whether they would be better stewards over D&D or not. I see your point, and in fact am not going to say that Paizo would be better for D&D or not, as I don't know. I think they'd be great for the D20 versions, but for anything before that, it's a LARGE question mark.</p><p></p><p>However, I think when asking and analyzing, one should look at what is already being done by Paizo and give them proper evaluations rather than simply writing it off.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 6217892, member: 4348"] Believe it or not NeonChameleon, I see your point and I am not disagreeing specifically on questioning whether they would be good stewards over ALL of D&D (inclusive of OD&D, B/X, BECMI/ AD&D and 2e) or not, as I don't know, I am unsure. The shopfront is ALL they can do in many instances because LEGALLY, if they promote AD&D or other older D&D like you want to see, they may GET SUED. That's a pretty big deterent...don't you think. However, ON THEIR FRONT PAGE, AT THE VERY TOP, Paizo regularly advertises. Half the time it is for something for Pathfinder, HOWEVER, OTHER TIMES, IT IS FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S WORK OR GAME that they are advertising. Now, with OSRIC, the final document that I got, I actually got from Paizo. It was NOT from a front page ad, but more directed there by the Paizo staff and conversations with a friend. The friend was interested in it from something they saw on Paizo, downloaded it, and then printed it out and we went over the document with each other to determine whether he would run it or not. Now my preference is simply to run 1e, since that's what I already own. That's what we ended up running, but that was MY influence. If it was from Paizo, it would have probably been OSRIC, which by the way, is part of the entire OSR movement. In a nutshell, I'm not disagreeing whether Paizo would or would not be good stewards over the entire namesake of D&D other than to say...they may be, or might not be. I am unsure. However, the idea that they don't support other games or writers or game writers or game systems, I feel is flawed. They CREATE specifically for their system, and that's what you are pointing out. They have limited resources. They have something that sells. Rather than divide those resources and have more costs vs. profit, they decide to create specifically for the product they already have. That's more of a business situation rather than anything dealing with what they'd desire to do. We know that they DO promote, and even sell, other 3rd party products. That's a hopeful sign. On the otherhand, they have focused all their efforts on their primary product for what they themselves produce (though they do have an open call in regards to freelance work and you or others creating gaming items [as long as you have the proper rights to do so] in order for them to sell that type of gaming material on their storefront) in regards to money and profit. So, I don't know whether they would be better stewards over D&D or not. I see your point, and in fact am not going to say that Paizo would be better for D&D or not, as I don't know. I think they'd be great for the D20 versions, but for anything before that, it's a LARGE question mark. However, I think when asking and analyzing, one should look at what is already being done by Paizo and give them proper evaluations rather than simply writing it off. [/QUOTE]
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