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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6218763" data-attributes="member: 5143">For us the process of going from 2e to 3e and 3.5e to 4e DID go almost precisely the same.We'd been playing 2e for years, we were all aware of its problems and limitations and they frustrated us on a regular basis.  I was getting tired of DMing and dealing with its issues all the time.  WOTC came along and promised a new game free of 2e's problems.  They had a serious of articles where they pointed out all of the same problems I'd noticed with 2e and said how the new edition wouldn't have those problems.  Obviously, they played the same game I did and learned the same lessons.  So we switched the day it came out.  So did everyone we knew.  Basically, there was only two groups of people we knew: Those who stopped playing D&D due to time constraints and those who switched to 3.5e.At the end of 3.5e, I was getting tired of running 3.5e D&D.  We were getting bogged down in all its problems..  I didn't even want to DM anymore because I was getting sick of working around all the issues in 3.5e.  Then, WOTC announced 4e and had a series of articles that pointed out the problems with 3.5e and how they were going to fix them in 4e.  They were the same issues I noticed.  Obviously they played the same game as I did and learned the same lessons.  So we switched the day it came out.Unlike the conversion to 3e, however, there was a large debate over switching amongst a large number of people I played with.  A bunch of them were new players.  They hadn't gone through the 2e to 3e switch and found the idea that they'd have to learn new rules and buy new books appalling.  This was long before anyone knew what the rules were.  Just as soon as it was announced.I can only guess that after about 5 years of no products coming out for 2e that any of our group actually wanted to buy, we were truly ready to move on.  2e felt over.  The last couple of years of products seemed like filler that nobody wanted.I also felt the same way about the last year worth of 3.5e products.  The same was done and was being kept on life support.  It could have floundered for another 2 or 3 years like that.  I'm glad WOTC put it out of its misery.  However, I can understand that without that floundering period many of my friends were simply not ready to move on.</blockquote>

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