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<blockquote data-quote="DMZ2112" data-source="post: 6221691" data-attributes="member: 78752"><p>No game company in the history of games has ever lived up to this standard you have set. Are you proposing a return to the zine-based rules-trading wargamer communities of the 1960s?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, first of all, this thread is not about one's preference for any particular flavor of D&D -- the OP specifically stated that the question he was asking was intended to be edition-neutral. So we should all dial down the rhetoric.</p><p></p><p>That said, the one thing that I am completely unable to reconcile in my brain about the quick onset of D&D5 is that since D&D Encounters hit its stride last year or so, my FLGS is packed to the rafters every week with D&D4 players of all ages, genders, and races (I am not among them). I have /never/ seen such diversity at a D&D gathering short of GenCon, where the sample size is several orders of magnitude larger.</p><p></p><p>It /must/ be an isolated phenomenon, because if my local experience is any judge, abandoning D&D4 is a /critical/ error on WotC's part. The owner of the shop and I tried to run a table of the last Encounters season using D&D5, as recommended -- not a single taker outside my usual (tiny) playtest group.</p><p></p><p>Does ignoring the D&D4 community in favor of courting Pathfinder players make WotC a good steward? Would it make them a good steward if they buckled down and supported the D&D4 community to the exclusion of Pathfinder players?</p><p></p><p>The transition between editions of a game is always rough, but did the transition from D&D4 to D&D5 have to be as jarring as it has been? The content of the games aside, I can't feel like the transition was handled in a very "steward-like" fashion.</p><p></p><p>This is obviously an unfair criterion -- Paizo hasn't yet had to steward a major revision of their ruleset, while WotC has suffered through two very contentious transitions. D&D3.5 to Pathfinder was floated on a powerful wave of consumer rage. Without a D&D4 analogue to rally against, I doubt the transition to Pathfinder 2.0 will be as smooth.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>BE CAREFUL! You're going to give Pemerton an aneurysm!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DMZ2112, post: 6221691, member: 78752"] No game company in the history of games has ever lived up to this standard you have set. Are you proposing a return to the zine-based rules-trading wargamer communities of the 1960s? Okay, first of all, this thread is not about one's preference for any particular flavor of D&D -- the OP specifically stated that the question he was asking was intended to be edition-neutral. So we should all dial down the rhetoric. That said, the one thing that I am completely unable to reconcile in my brain about the quick onset of D&D5 is that since D&D Encounters hit its stride last year or so, my FLGS is packed to the rafters every week with D&D4 players of all ages, genders, and races (I am not among them). I have /never/ seen such diversity at a D&D gathering short of GenCon, where the sample size is several orders of magnitude larger. It /must/ be an isolated phenomenon, because if my local experience is any judge, abandoning D&D4 is a /critical/ error on WotC's part. The owner of the shop and I tried to run a table of the last Encounters season using D&D5, as recommended -- not a single taker outside my usual (tiny) playtest group. Does ignoring the D&D4 community in favor of courting Pathfinder players make WotC a good steward? Would it make them a good steward if they buckled down and supported the D&D4 community to the exclusion of Pathfinder players? The transition between editions of a game is always rough, but did the transition from D&D4 to D&D5 have to be as jarring as it has been? The content of the games aside, I can't feel like the transition was handled in a very "steward-like" fashion. This is obviously an unfair criterion -- Paizo hasn't yet had to steward a major revision of their ruleset, while WotC has suffered through two very contentious transitions. D&D3.5 to Pathfinder was floated on a powerful wave of consumer rage. Without a D&D4 analogue to rally against, I doubt the transition to Pathfinder 2.0 will be as smooth. BE CAREFUL! You're going to give Pemerton an aneurysm! [/QUOTE]
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