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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 6222179" data-attributes="member: 6716779">More or less based on what Dancey said vs what we know DDI would be getting and there is a high and low figure one can go with there as well. We also know how much Paizo is getting and their growth rate. There is only around a dozen people working on D&DN IIRC so the 6 million or so from DDI would cover that. So yes WoTC has lost around 70% of its revenue since 2008 maybe close to 80% depending if you want to go with Dancey's 25-30 million figure which seems in the ball park since D&D is estimated to have earned about a billion dollars in 40 years (avg 25 mill per year) and there are figures for what TSR was earning and D&D was not making massive amounts until 81 or so so Dancey's figure seems to be in the right ball park. I think the the 25-30 million figure was referring to 2006 as the context Dancey was using was the lead up to the development of 4E.  You can also work out Paizo's income figures in 2011 when it was official Paizo was outselling 4th ed and they were in the 8-9 million range. As of 2012 around 18 million of Danceys figures are accounted for leaving around 7-12 million unaccounted for which could indicate the number of 3rd ed players who did not migrate to PF or stick with 4E long term. With D&DN being announced in Jan 2012 and 4E for all intents and purposes (outside of DDI) going out of print WoTC seems to have lost 70% of their revenue in the D&D franchise maybe more- close to 80%. Without accurate DDI income figures it is hard to say for certain but DDI does tell you how many people are on it and you can multiply that by the yearly or monthly subscription rates to get a range.</blockquote>

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