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<blockquote data-quote="Kisanji Arael" data-source="post: 2761455" data-attributes="member: 20056"><p>Gestalt is an experiment in Min/Maxing. It throws class specific stereotypes out the window. </p><p></p><p>... Oh, you're a monk/Paladin.... do you have trouble getting things done, having to pray to your God and meditate on yourself every day. Do you have troubles balancing the Judeo-Christian focus on the self and the Buddhist focus on its destruction?"</p><p></p><p>The idea behind it is "Assume that there is a maximum of every quantity (skills, HP, etc.) that you can obtain. How effective of a killing machine can you make with your character? If you are a psion/soulknife, who is both swift enough to move like a hummingbird and powerful enough magically (sorry, psionically) to destroy anything sent against you, what happens when you combine those traits? How can you make that class, which is already at a peak of killing capacity, as good as possible? How can the other players around you defeat it? How can your DM challenge you?</p><p></p><p>It is an interesting theory. As has been stated, you don't get both sets of hit points, only the better set. Might not want to combine a barbarian with a fighter, because the fighter already has a strong HP and doesn't need the D12. It asks players which classes have the best natural synergy bonuses, and which classes can be unstoppable together. It isn't about you getting another set of 21 Class levels to complement the set you already have, because the point of that was to get where you did, working best off of the skills of one class. It's about asking which two classes together will produce the best combinations to getting to 21st level.</p><p></p><p>P.S. -Anyone out there played a Gestalt game with Vows of Peace or Nonviolence?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kisanji Arael, post: 2761455, member: 20056"] Gestalt is an experiment in Min/Maxing. It throws class specific stereotypes out the window. ... Oh, you're a monk/Paladin.... do you have trouble getting things done, having to pray to your God and meditate on yourself every day. Do you have troubles balancing the Judeo-Christian focus on the self and the Buddhist focus on its destruction?" The idea behind it is "Assume that there is a maximum of every quantity (skills, HP, etc.) that you can obtain. How effective of a killing machine can you make with your character? If you are a psion/soulknife, who is both swift enough to move like a hummingbird and powerful enough magically (sorry, psionically) to destroy anything sent against you, what happens when you combine those traits? How can you make that class, which is already at a peak of killing capacity, as good as possible? How can the other players around you defeat it? How can your DM challenge you? It is an interesting theory. As has been stated, you don't get both sets of hit points, only the better set. Might not want to combine a barbarian with a fighter, because the fighter already has a strong HP and doesn't need the D12. It asks players which classes have the best natural synergy bonuses, and which classes can be unstoppable together. It isn't about you getting another set of 21 Class levels to complement the set you already have, because the point of that was to get where you did, working best off of the skills of one class. It's about asking which two classes together will produce the best combinations to getting to 21st level. P.S. -Anyone out there played a Gestalt game with Vows of Peace or Nonviolence? [/QUOTE]
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