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Would the real Peerless Archer please stand up?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kai Lord" data-source="post: 310340" data-attributes="member: 3570"><p>Nah. A Cleric 20 might make a more powerful character as far as the extra benefit of 9 full levels of spells, but he won't ever do as much damage with a bow as a maxed out Deepwood Sniper or Peerless Archer. Sure Greater Magic Weapon is nice, but if there are two archers on a ridge aiming for me, one is a Cleric 20 w/Greater Magic Weapon, and one is a Deepwood Sniper with a nonmagical Mighty Composite Longbow firing keen arrows that do QUINTUPLE damage on a crit, I know which one is more intimidating. Now give that same Deepwood Sniper a +5 bow and +5 arrows. Yikes.</p><p></p><p>Then you've got Order of the Bow Initiates and Peerless Archers doing ranged sneak attacks that add 20-30 points of extra damage <em>per hit</em>. And the Peerless Archer gets to add an additional +20 points of damage on a Power Shot, which gets really sick if he also has Manyshot.</p><p></p><p>People mention clerics because they get to do nifty things like cast Miracle, Harm, and Resurrection in addition to firing arrows. But when it comes down to just what can be done with those arrows, the cleric is inferior to all but the Arcane Archer.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: On second thought, even the Arcane Archer can do more with a bow than a Cleric. To outshine the AA, the Cleric would have to put down his bow and use his other tricks (spells). But that isn't what this thread is about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kai Lord, post: 310340, member: 3570"] Nah. A Cleric 20 might make a more powerful character as far as the extra benefit of 9 full levels of spells, but he won't ever do as much damage with a bow as a maxed out Deepwood Sniper or Peerless Archer. Sure Greater Magic Weapon is nice, but if there are two archers on a ridge aiming for me, one is a Cleric 20 w/Greater Magic Weapon, and one is a Deepwood Sniper with a nonmagical Mighty Composite Longbow firing keen arrows that do QUINTUPLE damage on a crit, I know which one is more intimidating. Now give that same Deepwood Sniper a +5 bow and +5 arrows. Yikes. Then you've got Order of the Bow Initiates and Peerless Archers doing ranged sneak attacks that add 20-30 points of extra damage [i]per hit[/i]. And the Peerless Archer gets to add an additional +20 points of damage on a Power Shot, which gets really sick if he also has Manyshot. People mention clerics because they get to do nifty things like cast Miracle, Harm, and Resurrection in addition to firing arrows. But when it comes down to just what can be done with those arrows, the cleric is inferior to all but the Arcane Archer. EDIT: On second thought, even the Arcane Archer can do more with a bow than a Cleric. To outshine the AA, the Cleric would have to put down his bow and use his other tricks (spells). But that isn't what this thread is about. [/QUOTE]
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