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<blockquote data-quote="kitcik" data-source="post: 5505143" data-attributes="member: 98256"><p>Yes, certainly splatbooks created the 3.5 errata-writers' full employment act (except that errata-writers don't get paid). As someone else said, it is very hard to get feats working properly together, and all the harder when they are written simultaneously by different people. Nonetheless, just from the blurb we were given, I believe your interpretation was the intent of the feats. Of course, that is just a best guess.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I agree with your concern, being able to have all your important stuff attached to one stat makes things a bit too easy, but I am not sure that I agree with your conclusion on these particular proposed feats.</p><p> </p><p>While the first guy is able to go from -1 ranged TH to +5 (a huge swing), he is still sucking down that -1 on AC and reflex saves. In other words, this feat would generally not make Dex a dump stat by itself (and investing several feats to create one dump stat may well be balanced).</p><p> </p><p>On the other hand, let's make the other guy more equivalent. Int 8 & Dex 20. Now he goes from +5 to +10 --> a smaller increment but it gets him to basically epic levels of bonus at first level. Having such an extreme TH bonus at an early level could break a campaign.</p><p> </p><p>Let's say both guys keep pumping those same stats (with normal ability increases and items) and get them to 30 at level 20.</p><p> </p><p>Guy #1 now has +20 ranged TH rather than -1. This is big, but then again he is level 20. If he is a caster, isn't he going to hit almost all the time with his ranged touch attacks anyway?</p><p> </p><p>Guy #2 now has +40 ranged TH rather than +20. This again seems more troubling to me.</p><p> </p><p>I guess one argument that would work is "feat 1 helps specialized casters and ranged warblades, feat 2 helps other ranged melee/roguish folks, who needs more help?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="kitcik, post: 5505143, member: 98256"] Yes, certainly splatbooks created the 3.5 errata-writers' full employment act (except that errata-writers don't get paid). As someone else said, it is very hard to get feats working properly together, and all the harder when they are written simultaneously by different people. Nonetheless, just from the blurb we were given, I believe your interpretation was the intent of the feats. Of course, that is just a best guess. I agree with your concern, being able to have all your important stuff attached to one stat makes things a bit too easy, but I am not sure that I agree with your conclusion on these particular proposed feats. While the first guy is able to go from -1 ranged TH to +5 (a huge swing), he is still sucking down that -1 on AC and reflex saves. In other words, this feat would generally not make Dex a dump stat by itself (and investing several feats to create one dump stat may well be balanced). On the other hand, let's make the other guy more equivalent. Int 8 & Dex 20. Now he goes from +5 to +10 --> a smaller increment but it gets him to basically epic levels of bonus at first level. Having such an extreme TH bonus at an early level could break a campaign. Let's say both guys keep pumping those same stats (with normal ability increases and items) and get them to 30 at level 20. Guy #1 now has +20 ranged TH rather than -1. This is big, but then again he is level 20. If he is a caster, isn't he going to hit almost all the time with his ranged touch attacks anyway? Guy #2 now has +40 ranged TH rather than +20. This again seems more troubling to me. I guess one argument that would work is "feat 1 helps specialized casters and ranged warblades, feat 2 helps other ranged melee/roguish folks, who needs more help?" [/QUOTE]
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