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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PJ-Mason" data-source="post: 2475205" data-attributes="member: 12285">I just woke up, but i'll reply anyway. I'm sure i'll fumble this a bit, but i'll give it a shot.See, this is my point when i was talking about OGC usuage, or the shortage of it. Why use someone else's OGC when its darn near cripple-ware? Or its set-up so that its not friendly to use it? Sure you can use the OGC and not the trademark, but that is a kind of cripple-ware. You can use the True D20 OGC (from what i understand its made up of 2/3 of Unearthed Arcana OGC anyway, yes?), but if you can't reference the rule set/game book you got it from, its a lot less useful. Unless you put your OGL License and use of OGC on your front or back cover! hmm. Frankly, i don't blame people for just using their own material. Avoid the headache, egos, or greed of others. Thats what i meant about game publishers talking a good game. For some its just talk and they aren't that great a community supporter. Using the OGL to create material that they then try to shield others from using isn't all that cool in my eyes. Or at least try to set it up so they can control how you use it. Sure doesn't seem like good faith to me.Here is a slightly related question for those with real OGC experience. If you do use someone else's OGC, who had in turn used someone else's OGC....do you list everyone who has touched the game mechanic before you, or just the last person in the designer chain? Its not a big problem now, but i could see that getting fairly dysfunctional down the road. Assuming the industry ever really takes to using communal OGC beyond the SRDs. Which i think gets less likely with each new License that a D20/OGL publisher puts out designed to control their OGC, through trademark value if nothing else.</blockquote>

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