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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balgus" data-source="post: 450571" data-attributes="member: 8113">Tallarm:If he put so much work into it, why did he carry on to this point? I'd say that broadly speaking, the kidnapping was certainly unlawful and probably evil because you did it purely for your own gain.the thief was stealing for her own gain.  but the rest of teh group, a cleric, wiz, sorc, ranger and fighter were the ones that kidnapped the girl.  We just thought it was the easiest way to get on with the game.  Guess not.  Does the thief player have a history of this sort of thing? If I was you I'd have turned his character over to the authorities and let him live with the consequences of his actions. That type of action (thieving and then suggesting kidnapping to cover himself) is not particularly fun for everyone else if the character continuously gets into trouble and then runs to the other PC's for help.we just started the game- first adventure- all lvl 1.  in her history- yes she loves to steal.  She was in jail tho- and so the kidnapping was our idea- actually it was the ranger's idea.  but we all had a hand in planning it. The DM got a kik out of it too.  He said it would have been easier just to plead for her.  eh- you learn something everyday....edit:and the ranger was the one that put a lot of work into his char.  he was a tough guy that was left in the woods by his parents when he was little.  They were running away from a band of hobgoblins and hid him so that they could draw the band away.  they were killed, and he was left with an amulet that was special to that village.  He went to a mystic (shaman)to get his past figured out.</blockquote>

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