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<blockquote data-quote="Tsyr" data-source="post: 453572" data-attributes="member: 354">First, let me once again remind you that my contention is that the ACT was evil, not nessesarily the characters, though IMC they would promptly become evil after that ordeal. Anyhow...As I said:Any time you attack someone.Any time.You must accept the possiblity that you might kill who you are attacking.This is not some new-fangled concept. Accidents happen and people die even in mock combat. I've been involved in a couple of situations in the SCA that, had we not taken very thorough measures to ensure saftey, and had something happened just a bit different, people very way may have died. In what is no more than, essentialy, a game. (To my knowledge, the SCA has never had a death, and I'm glad for that).Therefor, you are responsible for any death you cause in combat. If it is real combat (IE, not mock combat or combat instruction), it doesn't matter that that wasn't what you set out to do. You entered into a situation where one person very well could die, and a person did die.In this case, since the combat was unneeded, and the result of an evil act to begin with (Again, you will never convince me kidnapping is not evil), or at the very least a decidedly non-good act that was ill-thought-out, in my view, it is murder.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tsyr, post: 453572, member: 354"] First, let me once again remind you that my contention is that the ACT was evil, not nessesarily the characters, though IMC they would promptly [b]become[/b] evil after that ordeal. Anyhow... As I said: Any time you attack someone. [i]Any[/i] time. You [i]must[/i] accept the possiblity that you might kill who you are attacking. This is not some new-fangled concept. Accidents happen and people die even in mock combat. I've been involved in a couple of situations in the SCA that, had we not taken very thorough measures to ensure saftey, and had something happened just a bit different, people very way may have died. In what is no more than, essentialy, a game. (To my knowledge, the SCA has never had a death, and I'm glad for that). Therefor, you are responsible for any death you cause in combat. If it is real combat (IE, not mock combat or combat instruction), it doesn't matter that that wasn't what you set out to do. You entered into a situation where one person very well could die, and a person did die. In this case, since the combat was unneeded, and the result of an evil act to begin with (Again, you will never convince me kidnapping is not evil), or [i]at the very least[/i] a decidedly non-good act that was ill-thought-out, in my view, it is murder. [/QUOTE]

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