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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5171725" data-attributes="member: 2011">Two minute turns per creature seems slow, not fast. In our group of 6 PCs fighting 6 NPCs, that would be 24 minutes per turn total. If the encounter went out to 6 rounds, that would be a 2.5 hour encounter.With the soldier being taken out in round 1, that was even more than 2 minutes per average in your game.Odd. I don't see this at all. Our 6 person group is lucky to get 2 full encounters in within 5 hours, let alone 4 in 6.I do think that I challenge my players more than some DMs do though. I hit them on Sunday with the 6600 XP Forge encounter of out Revenge of the Giants and the players were concerned by round 3 because most of the PCs were 3/4ths damaged and I had just slide the Cleric 3 squares away so that she could not do her Readied Word of Vigor. That is an N-1/2 encounter for 6 15th level PCs, but they were still worried. Instead of a lower than their level cake walk encounter, they had 3 foes doing area effects on them, one of whom was immobilizing them. I didn't change the foes or the terrain at all, I just played the foes as if they were fighting for their lives. Not just a bunch of foes that the PCs can focus fire on.Note: I also give the PCs the Expertise feats for free, so at level 15, they are +2 to hit with all attacks over core rules.But I do see what you see. As the PCs get higher level, the encounters actually get easier for them due to the plethora of abilities and powers and synergies that this brings to the table.The DM has to work at giving similar sets of synergies to his NPCs, or the PCs will waltz all over encounters, especially at higher levels.If he does that, the encounters should get longer. If someone measures grind by how long an encounter lasts (45 minutes or 1.5 hours or 2.5 hours), then challenging higher level PCs is more grindy in 4E than just throwing foes at them based on XP charts from the DMG.</blockquote>

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